BREAKING: Trump halts military aid to Ukraine, media reports

a year ago by breakfastmtn to c/world

U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered a suspension of all military aid to Ukraine, escalating pressure on President Volodymyr Zelensky mere days after a heated exchange in the Oval Office cast doubt on U.S. support for Kyiv.

A senior Defense Department official told Bloomberg that all U.S. military assistance to Ukraine is on hold until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.

The pause affects not only future aid but also weapons already in transit, including shipments on aircraft and ships, as well as equipment awaiting transfer in Poland.

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Edit: changed source from Bloomberg to Kyiv Independent b/c there's no paywall and more detail in the story.

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Lanske 56 points a year ago

I have not a lot of knowledge how American politics work, but isn't this for congress to decide? how is Trump so powerful? (sorry for my daft question)

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chiliedogg 47 points a year ago

It's very illegal. He has already been impeached once for withdrawing military aid to Ukraine in his first term.

And you see where that got us.

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Lanske 11 points a year ago

Yeah indeed, but now he has got the full backing and more Trump tronies?!

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ALoafOfBread 45 points a year ago

It isn't daft. The Republicans since Reagan have pushed a fringe legal theory called the Unitary Executive Theory. Basically, they want the president to fully control the executive branch and military such that theirs is the only voice that matters for much of the government. Not unlike a king, but partially checked by congress and the courts. They have been taking (illegal) actions to try to get sued, and also have been suing others/other branches of government, to try to get the Supreme Court to hear cases that will support this fringe legal theory so that it becomes the law of the land.

I am not a lawyer, but this is possibly something Trump can legally do since he is Commander in Chief of the armed forces. However, this seems more like an apportionment thing, which is Congress' responsibility. Congress has allocated funds to send military aid to Ukraine. So, even if Trump as Commander in Chief could say "no more weapons to ukraine", it seems doubtful to me that he could (legally) stop weapons shipments currently en route.

But, by the time whatever government office sues the office of the president to get a judge to enjoin them to send the agreed upon weapons that were already apportioned, it will already have hurt Ukraine somewhat. Trump often weaponizes inefficiency. And these sort of illegal acts aren't crimes per se - they're just procedural breaches - the legal remedy is just to reverse the action.

So, probably not legal. But Trump gets to weaponize his administration's incompetence (or feigned incompetence) to at least delay aid. More competent people may support these actions, knowing they're illegal, to try and strengthen the president's role even further.

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Lanske 11 points a year ago

Wow! Thanks so much for this reply! this is very helpful, thnx a lot

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Soulg 33 points a year ago

Republicans hold the majority in congress, so they're refusing to push back and are just allowing him to usurp power from them.

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Lanske 8 points a year ago

Thnx for your reply! i understand that, but it seems nothing goes via congress?!

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Furbag 31 points a year ago

It is for Congress to decide such matters. It says so right in our constitution, but our Legislative branch has been ceding their ability to check Executive overreach for decades. Now, with a complicit Congress as the majority, they will never challenge Trump on anything he does, no matter how unconstitutional or illegal it might be. Same goes for the Judiciary as well, chock full of partisan hacks who bend and twist their interpretation of the language of the constitution to cherry pick a favorable ruling for anything that Trump does.

Basically, our system of checks and balances that are meant to keep one aspect of the government from becoming too powerful has been completely subsumed by ideologues who prefer monarchy to democracy. The executive now essentially has unchecked authority and is in full control of the government apparatus.

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DarkFuture 27 points a year ago

how is Trump so powerful?

The Republican party controls Congress and they have abdicated their responsibilities to our Constitution and, by extension, the American people in favor of an authoritarian because they have accepted him as their leader, thus giving away their own power.

Our forefathers never expected Congress to give away its own power. Because it doesn't really make any sense in the long term for them to do so.

We are experiencing a coup. Most Americans are too uneducated to understand this.

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deaf_fish 18 points a year ago

We are entering a "yeah and who's going to stop me era of US politics"

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Maggoty 7 points a year ago

The president was always able to stop aid under certain conditions. Trump is just going to certify that one of those conditions exist no matter how ridiculous it is.

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 6 points a year ago
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