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Has anyone switched to Jolla C2 / SailfishOS?

2 years ago by Antti to c/buyeuropean

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Hi all! I am curious to find alternative as my next phone and I was wondering have anyone made the jump from android to Jolla C2 and to the SailfishOS? If so, how was the transition?

macros 9 points 2 years ago

Hi,

I haven't done that but I used (and use) Linux smartphones like the N9 and N900 and because I need modern connectivity and a decent camera I got a used Pixel 5 with Graphene. My wife uses an XperiaXA2 with Sailfish so I know the system quite well.

So to answer you:

  • Android Apps mostly work reasonably well under Sailfish, expect difficulties with some banking apps and greater difficulties with apps that require Google Play (there are hacks to get microG installed, by now even somewhat officially supported, but she never asked for me to try that). Generally this will make the transition quite easy as you can continue to use old apps if you avoided google dependency on Android. Use f-droid and Aurora store to install them.
  • Expect to miss many things from android and falling back to app support to fill your needs. (e.g. good navigation app), but as that works generally well that is no problem. Over time your will replace some of those, but not all, with native apps.
  • Expect many features to just work which under android are a hassle. E.g. caldav sync to nextcloud or full and automated wireless backups via rsync and a script.
  • Never expect completely smooth sailing. While there is a constant stream of updates the system never reached the polished state of android. Most bugs can be worked around but are annoying. Example: On the XA2 the android app support sometimes looses internet connectivity. Workaround: Stop app support (there is a gui button for that), disable SIM slot 1, enable SIM slot 1, enable app support. Once you get used to it, its quick. Or the browser does not work with some websites and crashes, but you can just use an android browser.
  • Battery life with stopped android app support is amazing, even after years of usage the phone only needs to be charged once every few days. Battery life with app support enabled is still quite good with 1-2 days on moderate use.
  • Photo quality is lacking compared to current android standards. This may be better on newer phones like the C2.

Overall I can recommend it if you are willing to read the forums to find the workarounds and willing to make some compromises. She uses it as daily driver for many years and has no desire to replace it yet. The community behind sailfish is awesome and the developers often listen to user desires.

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Antti 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you so much for detailed answer and insight! I am definitely interested to try SailfishOS but would hope a little bit better HW compared to C2. Might still be that I try that one so I have feeling of the SailfishOS.

Extremely glad to hear that your wife has been able to use it as daily driver for so long

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passenger 6 points 2 years ago

I recently got a used Pixel and GrapheneOS. Can recommend, although the "needs a pixel" part is a bit stupid. Jump was super easy. No constant scamming the user during the installation process and after...

Hoping we get a non google EU alternative soon, but this works for me for now.

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proto_jefe 1 point 2 years ago

Do you know how Graphene helps to protect privacy in case someone takes it to make a copy (ie TSA)? I’m an American living outside the US and I don’t have anything to hide (while at the same time respecting my own right to free speech and privacy) but it freaked me out when I learned morning that US immigration can make a copy of your personal phone if you don’t allow them to view your social media accounts. I’m interested in moving over from iOS to Graphene this year.

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passenger 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know - however I highly doubt they can open a GOS phone and get to the data. But an authoritarian state can always gain access via the usual means, see https://xkcd.com/538/

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Zeiram 2 points a year ago

It is ordered. I'm still waiting for the parcel.

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