Stern 17 points a year ago

"Chicken" and "Pork"? Sure, understandable... I guess. If they were going after, "Milk" that would be a whole other thing.

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FooBarrington 21 points a year ago

They did this in Germany! Oat milk can't legally be called "milk", so it's instead "oat drink".

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Stern 33 points a year ago

That seems ridiculous to me considering coconut milk has been called as such since the 1700s and I haven't seen a coconuts nipples.

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Railcar8095 35 points a year ago

Happy now?

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november 30 points a year ago

I am not!

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FooBarrington 11 points a year ago

It absolutely is, especially since there are products with "milk" in their name that aren't edible (e.g. "Scheuermilch", apparently scouring cream in English). It's nothing but populism and lobbying.

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Dasus 9 points a year ago

And almond milk is almost 1000 years old, and Middle-English called it "almonde mylk"

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/almond_milk

So yeah, Big Dairy propaganda

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dumnezero 11 points a year ago

Seems like a great test to see if your government is far-right.

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merde 17 points a year ago

passed in France too. More to do with the meat lobby than far right.

also, I met meat fanatics even among anarcho-communists 🤷 they were even the majority 🤦

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dumnezero 11 points a year ago

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grrgyle 3 points a year ago

Well I never.

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faythofdragons 6 points a year ago

Product labels in general need to be more clear. I'm mildly allergic to soy, and half my grocery shopping is squinting at ingredient labels. I can't even get the cheap peanut butter any more, because you have to pay twice as much if you want just peanuts in it.

My doctor wants me to avoid legumes in general, but *laughs in poverty*

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kattfisk 2 points a year ago

Where would you expect the ingredient information to exist if not on the ingredient label?

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Treczoks 4 points a year ago

Absolutely OK. If "something something X" is the name of your product, it needs to contain X to a certain degree. If there was no strawberry in strawberry jam, you would complain. If there was no cinnamon in a cinnamon bun, this would be wrong, too.

The term "Vegan Chicken Chips" for a product that does not contain chicken is simply like "Apple Sauce" without apples.

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stay_on_target 27 points a year ago

Rocky mountain oysters contain no oysters. Head cheese is not cheese. Hen of the woods is not a bird. Welsh rabbit includes 0% rabbit. Ants on a log, Cowboy caviar, Bear claws... refried beans are.. gasp.. only fried once.

Its all made up and the points don't matter, until you start threatening profits.

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budget_biochemist 11 points a year ago

Jerusalem Artichokes are neither artichokes nor from Jerusalem.

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Treczoks 2 points a year ago

Indeed. Time to clean up some of those names, too.

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Beastimus 3 points a year ago

Or just accept that that's not how language works?

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monogram 19 points a year ago

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Enkers 16 points a year ago

Part of the problem is with discoverability. If you make a completely new word, people have no idea what your product is like, so they're unlikely to try it.

I think the best solution for them is to use words similar to the animal product, but obviously different, like "chick'n" or "chickenless" for example. I prefer the latter because it's more explicit about not being chicken.

But yeah, getting some standardization on it would be a big step in the right direction.

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Treczoks 3 points a year ago

Absolutely fine with that idea.

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merde 16 points a year ago

the problem is that they're banning words like "steak" which isn't about ingredients

The word steak was written steke in Middle English, and comes from the mid-15th century Scandinavian word steik, related to the Old Norse steikja 'to roast on a stake', and so is related to the word stick or stake.

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Treczoks 2 points a year ago

The point here is that nobody really cares for middle English name origins. Ask 100 random people what "steak" is, and I'd be surprized if you did not get at least 99 answers that it's meat.

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Sunshine 0 points a year ago

Anything to maintain to Carnist-centric view of the world.

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Praxinoscope 15 points a year ago

How much butter is in peanut butter?

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Treczoks 5 points a year ago

Or in Shea butter, yes.

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TwanHE 4 points a year ago

That's why it shouldn't be called peanut butter anyways. Let's name it something logical like peanut cheese (pindakaas)

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kattfisk 3 points a year ago

There aren't even any nuts in it! It's all a lie!

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x00z 5 points a year ago

What about bacon chips that contain no bacon?

Or that's alright because it's bacon spices?

Lmao people are stupid.

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Treczoks 0 points a year ago

I've seen those in a shop once. I consider them an abomination. They are basically a maize flip with brown stripes and some ominous "bacon flavor". And it was labeled as "vegan", so whatever this "bacon flavor" was made of is suspicious at least. Probably something like "natural strawberry flavor" which is made from wood...

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november 5 points a year ago

Buffalo wings.

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Treczoks 3 points a year ago

Indeed a shitty name, too.

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AnalogNotDigital -1 points a year ago

Honestly good for them. They aren't 'meatless meatballs' they are something else.