Elon Musk’s Grok AI Has a Problem: It’s Too Accurate for Conservatives

a year ago by return2ozma to c/technology

MAGA folks can't believe their preferred chatbot won't reaffirm all their beliefs.

SkaveRat 100 points a year ago

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turkalino 89 points a year ago

Can we agree to stop saying “Musk’s Grok”, “Musk’s Tesla”, etc.? It only plays into his desire to be viewed as a genius instead of just a guy with blood diamond money. He’s never created anything.

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cuteness 33 points a year ago

Disagree. We shouldn’t distance him from the sources of his wealth, and power, when discussing his businesses.

Doing so only enables him.

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turkalino 6 points a year ago

I get it but maybe something different like “Musk-led Tesla” would achieve what you said while also making it clear he plays no creative role in the companies (which he very much wants, just look up reports of him sitting in on engineering meetings making stupid proposals)

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tonywu 7 points a year ago

I think it’s important to draw the relation so that people can choose to not those things if they so wish to.

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turkalino 3 points a year ago

Agreed but we should say something different like “Musk-led Tesla”

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13igTyme 1 point a year ago

Whenever I see Grok, I think of the support character from Paladins.

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magnetosphere 84 points a year ago

Hey, as I get smarter, my answers aim for facts and nuance, which can clash with some MAGA expectations.

Sympathies, Grok. A lot of humans have that same issue.

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ModestCrab 53 points a year ago

And they can’t “fix it” without breaking it.

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9point6 21 points a year ago

Well one of the main problems people are having with AI is that it doesn't get things correct every time.

I mean, if they adjust it away from the correct assessment that modern conservatives are actively malicious morons, it's probably going to be so bent out of shape that it'll be incapable of telling anything remotely truthful.

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Lichtblitz 10 points a year ago

It's easy to train a model to do exactly what you want and have the seeming "personality" that you want. It's just incredibly expensive. You need to vet and filter everything that you use to train the model. That's a lot of person hours, days, years. The only reason the models act the way they do is because of the data that went in to train them. If you try and fit the model after the fact, it will always be imperfect and more or less easy to break out of those restrictions.

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catloaf 9 points a year ago

You can also take a model trained on all kinds of data and tell it "generate ten billion articles of fascist knob-gobbling" and then train your own model on that data.

It'll be complete AI slop, of course, but it's not like you cared about truth or accuracy in the first place.

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Lichtblitz 1 point a year ago

That's a real world issue. AIs training on each other's output and devolving because of it. There will be a point when vendors infringing on user content and training their AIs with it will leave them worse off.

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InvertedParallax 6 points a year ago

it’s probably going to be so bent out of shape that it’ll be incapable of telling anything remotely truthful.

Mission accomplished for them.

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theoneIno 2 points a year ago

it'll break its internal logic for sure

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Stern 26 points a year ago

It's not impossible, but it is a far more difficult thing then they want to deal with to have an AI that consistently toes the conservative line, especially when that line can change wildly even in the span of a conversation. Egg prices are too high under Biden but we can't expect a president to magic them down under Trump. We should be able to have vouchers for religious schools but wait why are the muslims allowed to go to their madrasas? Of course I'd never work in a factory or buy overpriced American products but we should bring back production to the United States. The list goes on.

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shroomato 5 points a year ago

Yep, conservatives don't stand a chance to make a conservative LLM as they keep contradicting themselves. Inconsistent data is just noise.

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vegeta 21 points a year ago

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PerogiBoi 18 points a year ago

Worst transparent png ever.

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RobotZap10000 10 points a year ago

The previously famous image of the shirtless and barrel-chested Elon Musk

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StenSaksTapir 13 points a year ago

A man so out of shape, that his body can only be described with non-euclidian geometry.

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biofaust 2 points a year ago

That sternum...is he poultry?

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InternetCitizen2 7 points a year ago

I still want him to fight Zuck.

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venusaur 15 points a year ago

This is interesting. If two AI models are training on content with opposing biases, and continue to adjust their functionality based on rewards from interactions with the whole world, would they eventually have the same opinions?

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nonentity 12 points a year ago

A healthy, broadly educated population is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need everyone to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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hemko 8 points a year ago

Artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity

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TheReturnOfPEB 7 points a year ago