Did you configure it that way? I'm fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data?

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bali10050 3 points 3 years ago

I don't know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it's cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I'm not 100% sure if it's normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is

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freeman 29 points 3 years ago

It is. Just never says what’s hung.

Frankly It’s more like

Windows - “shut down please. No it’s fine, I’ll wait. Indefinately is fine”

Linux “ shut down please. You have 30 seconds or I’ll shut you down myself”

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bali10050 -4 points 3 years ago

If my pc doesn't shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it's just affraid of me

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mortrek 24 points 3 years ago

You're forgetting the 10 minutes of mandatory Windows updates.

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u202307011927 6 points 3 years ago

Only ten??

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YonatanAvhar 21 points 3 years ago

A stop job is running for Simple Desktop Display Manager

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dorumon 2 points 3 years ago

I think you can configure systemd to force shutdown such things in like 2 seconds which is the only way I can shut down my Thinkpad running Debian 12.

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majlitech 1 point 3 years ago

So real

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flossdaily 20 points 3 years ago

I remember going from MS-DOS to Windows and being really annoyed that I couldn't see the loading log.

Same with Android phones in the beginning when they were still the scrappy underdog. I wanted to see machinery at work!

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janus2 13 points 3 years ago

I would rather watch console output I don't understand scrolling by too fast to read than some dumb spinning dots >:[

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mvirts 15 points 3 years ago

Wait you guys don't sudo echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger?

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SteveTech 33 points 3 years ago

I think you'd have to do echo o | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger, otherwise sudo only works for the echo, not the write.

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outdated_belated 14 points 3 years ago

Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. I’d used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous.

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clumsyninza 5 points 3 years ago

What does tee do?

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SteveTech 13 points 3 years ago

It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know.

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GuyNoIRQ 8 points 3 years ago

echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger 🫣

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mvirts 6 points 3 years ago

Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot 😅

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SkullHex2 9 points 3 years ago

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mvirts 9 points 3 years ago

button?

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backhdlp 6 points 3 years ago

I don't get it, shutting down looks like the Ubuntu one to me.

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sorrowl 6 points 3 years ago

There's a kernel option to disable the text and it's on by default on Arch, but not on Ubuntu.

Edit: It seems that the kernel parameter is not on by default. I've always used GRUB and the text hasn't appeared for me until I've removed the quiet option in the GRUB config file so I thought it was on by default. It might be on by default with GRUB or I'm remembering wrong.

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Tranus 7 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure that's right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn't change any kernel options. Also, I've never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo.

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GamingChairModel 5 points 3 years ago

it's on by default on Arch

I don't think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don't include the "quiet" parameter.

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backhdlp 3 points 3 years ago

It's not on by default.

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SaltyIceteaMaker 2 points 3 years ago

I get stuck on a black screen about every 10 or so reboots/shutdowns

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ninsix 1 point 3 years ago

Correction: first image: Windows update second image: Arch Linux third image: Void Linux

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