Not all Utahns were included at the 1895 convention, Judge Paige Petersen noted.
• "Women were in the audience, but they weren't any of the delegates," Petersen said.
• "How do we know … what they thought the meaning of their rights were?" Peterson asked. "It seems important in this context because women are the ones that experience pregnancy and experience childbirth."
Utah Supreme Court reviews abortion ban; judge notes historical omission of women's voices
3 years ago by Flying Squid to c/politics
CoolSouthpaw 8 points 3 years ago
I get your sentiment of your despair, but shitty lawyers are gonna be shitty lawyers. What would actually be worse is the judge accepting this argument in 2023.
Blackbeard 15 points 3 years ago
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PersnickityPenguin 5 points 3 years ago
The dude that cited 12th century English common law?
Blackbeard 3 points 3 years ago
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TheCopiedCovenant 21 points 3 years ago
What??? The racist, sexist, violent, polygamist church run by rich white men didn't want to ratify the civil rights amendments???
Fyi, black people were restricted from having the priesthood (essentially the power allowing you to perform every saving ordinance) until 1978. It is Mormon doctrine that they are essentially cursed.
CoolSouthpaw 16 points 3 years ago
Wtf. I love Utah now. 😅
TheCopiedCovenant 16 points 3 years ago
It's honestly so ridiculously rare to see good political news here. Our legislature is owned by Mormons, farmers, and Mormon farmers. The Mormon Church has their hands in EVERYTHING.
"We don't get involved in politics" my ass. Remember when they used tithing money to campaign against Prop 8? Remember when they sent an email to every member in their records to vote against Prop 2? (Medical Marijuana) Remember when their closed door meetings with legislature gutted the Medical MJ program that WE FUCKING VOTED ON. Many, many, many more examples.
Oh, cherry on top, Salt Lake County is gerrymandered as fuck lol.
flipht 17 points 3 years ago
It's not. Another judge mentioned it as a reason that abortion wasn't a thing in during the colonial period.
He ignored that women were discussing it in home keeping books and guides. They just didn't call it "medically necessary abortion" - they called it bleeding or stopping the blood.
cogman 10 points 3 years ago
Joseph Smith, Mormon founder, had a doctor friend, John c Bennett, who is theorized to have been the abortionist of choice for Joe and his many rapes.
Abortion wasn't a Christian right thing until the 1980s. Until then, it was mostly a Catholic thing. The only places where it's "tradition" is Catholic majority states.
Burn_The_Right 6 points 3 years ago
Why would conservatives care what a woman has to say about women's health? Misogyny is a core principle of conservatism.
Conservatism should be illegal. It is a net harm to humanity. Nothing good in history has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.
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