Spain convenes European, Arab nations to ramp up pressure on Israel in Gaza

a year ago by schizoidman to c/world

Representatives from European countries including France, Britain, Germany and Italy are joining envoys from Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Morocco, the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

Norway, Iceland, Ireland and Slovenia, who like Spain have already recognised a Palestinian state, are also taking part, alongside Brazil.

LordBelphegor 37 points a year ago

what will germany do? Call every human rights activist an anti-semite?

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Viking_Hippie 18 points a year ago

Don't they already? Israel and the US sure do..

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Saleh 14 points a year ago

The UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese had multiple panel events in Germany cancelled or kicked out of their locations by the pressure of the German government. She also reports threats of her being arrested made by the police against the event organizers.

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ProvableGecko 11 points a year ago

Sanction Spain ofc

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belastend 6 points a year ago

I hope not. For the first time in years, the discourse around Israel has shifted. Like, 2 weeks ago, Members of the CDU got grilled on their attitude towards Israel and its renewed attacks at prime time on national television. This is unprecedented. I really think there is a shift in public discourse on Gaza.

Obligatory fuck the Staatsräson.

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dubyakay 4 points a year ago

What a coincidence. Right around the time of the PTB posts regarding feddit.org

I had to do a quick double-take to verify this post is not on the nazi instance.

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rumimevlevi -3 points a year ago

You surely get easily fooled by hypocritical politicians.

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belastend 4 points a year ago

I do not see the connection between "The discourse has changed" and "you get fooled by hypocritical politicians".

For the first time in ages, media outlets are openly questioning our stance on Israel. Talks of cutting off the weapons supply are fucking happening.

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b161 2 points a year ago

Or maybe bust in their doors in the middle of the night and arrest them?

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Grumpyleb 17 points a year ago

The Arab nations are a joke, pandering to whoever sells them weapons they don't know how to use (looking at you Gulf states). I'm writing this as a Lebanese who's sick of this non stop genocide. Strongly worded letters don't work, and now there's insanity in America, I can't see anything changes unless Europe somehow decide to sanction Israel on their own and hope other countries follow suit.

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fxomt 5 points a year ago

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rumimevlevi 16 points a year ago

I will keep my expectations low

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TheFrogThatFlies 3 points a year ago

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ExLisper 10 points a year ago

I think it's because Spain has one of the few truly left leaning governments. After losing local elections to right wing parties they called early parliamentary elections and run hard left in the campaign. Most governments lean right in those situations to attract some right wing voters but Spanish PM really showed were he stands and won. The minor coalition partner in the government is even more progressive so together they are not afraid to speak out. Other countries still feel endangered by the right and don't want to fight.

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itsralC 4 points a year ago

Ehhh... Our president is great at appearing to be left-leaning, but at the end of the day the average spaniard sees no change in their quality of life, as most of the money goes to futile campaigns that show how cool and progressive our government is, instead of actual change. He is a very good diplomat, by which I mean he lies very well and keeps good apperances and relations with the outside world. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have him in government than the (far) right coalition of PP/Vox (which is always really close to winning when they aren't going after eachother...), but his party is still a status-quo party. The last elections, it seemed their whole campaign was based on "stopping" the far right, which is good, but come on, give me something more to work with.

And what I said about funneling money towards shitty achieve-nothing-while-looking-good campaigns? The more left leaning party Sumar is that x10 (or their leader at least). And also they managed to lose leftist votes in general by fracturing from the previous party, Podemos. Yay for leftist infighting!

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ExLisper 2 points a year ago

I mostly agree but not completely. Yes, Sanchez is a very much just a masterful liar but him clinging to power for so long instead of handing it to PP/Vox is really a remarkable achievement. PSOE is basically a center-left party and you can't expect much from them. They are not going to implement radical reforms. And yes, Sumar does focus on empty gestures a lot but I wouldn't say they achieved nothing. They have pretty good track record in consumer protection (multiple lawsuits and fines for corporations, new laws protecting consumers) and labor reform (Spain had the fastest growing GDP out of developed countries last year). They are also the only government showing some spine when it comes to Israel. Overall, I would give them a decent 6/10. Not great but moving in the right directions. There are really few governments out there that pass this mark.

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itsralC 2 points a year ago

Fair enough

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stalkerGTFO 2 points a year ago

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skozzii -2 points a year ago

Why don't the arab countries allow more refugees, it's wild to me when so many lives are being lost... who cares about the geopolitics, let's save some lives, it's so sad the Palestinian people have enemies on both sides of them.

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dubyakay 6 points a year ago

Palestinians want to live in Palestine. They don't want to be refugees.

But even if they wanted to leave, they can't. Not because of the Arab Nations not taking them in (barring what the other commenter has mentioned of them being poor). Israel is controlling the borders and checkpoints and they do not let anyone leave.

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rumimevlevi 1 point a year ago

Jordan for example already have 2 millions paleatinian refugees. Arab countries economies are weak and can't handle hundred thousands of refugees that will never be allowed to return to gaza after the war by Israel

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