Hi! I came here looking for an alternative to Reddit which is less of a liberal echo chamber. It looks good, even more responsive. But I wonder, how is the moderation here? Biggest problem I have with Reddit is that it is becoming increasingly impossible to have discussions about "sensitive topics". Even if you are being civil, there is a chance you will just straight out get banned for saying something which liberals do not like. How does Lemmy compare? Thanks.
nickwitha_k 26 points 3 years ago
If you mean "liberal" as in neo-liberalism, then, you'll probably be happy throughout most of the Fediverse. If you mean "liberal" referring to non-right-wing, you're gonna have a bad time. The software behind Lemmy is created by Marxist-Leninists and much of Lemmy is rather leftist and is quick to stand up against abuse against marginalized groups.
kwekkie -13 points 3 years ago
That is helpful, thanks. Any alternatives? If it was just about the political stance you could say Twitter, but it doesn't have the structure which Reddit has. You mostly follow people which makes the content sort of random, and mostly about politics in my experience. I like having groups which are about specific topics, like subreddits are.
mo_ztt 21 points 3 years ago
I've had plenty of unpopular-opinion arguments here (example) and I've literally never had a post or comment removed that I know of. On reddit it happened several times from "both sides" of the traditional spectrum. I.e. the mods here are significantly less ban-happy than they were on reddit (although you'll definitely get downvoted for saying certain things depending on which community / which instance). Also, because of the smaller size and the UI differences it actually doesn't make too much difference if you get downvoted -- your stuff won't get hidden; it'll just get a sort of scarlet letter of WE DON'T LIKE THIS MAN SAYING THIS, but everyone can still read it.
nickwitha_k 15 points 3 years ago
Much of the Fediverse is developed by people who are pretty left-of-center, as it is based in Free, Open-Source Software, which is itself based upon left-of-center philosophy. As another commentor mentioned, you'll probably find some instances that are politically aligned with you but have been de-federated from much of the rest of the Fediverse for hate speech and encouraging terrorism.
However, as I mentioned exclusion is pretty directly in conflict with FOSS philosophies so, they are going to be small echo chambers and you might have but luck with proprietary platforms run by free speech absolutists.
kwekkie -17 points 3 years ago
I don't need a community to be "politically aligned" with me, I want it to be neutral. But the problem is, it seems like that is not possible. Because when I say "you should be able to say anything, as long as you're civil" that would already be considered a political stance. Because libs are going to say that that would be "allowing hate speech".
nickwitha_k 21 points 3 years ago
Paradox of Tolerance. Allowing hateful, marginalizing speech to be unchecked increases measurable harm to marginalized groups. Neutrality is only ever siding against the oppressed.
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mancy 27 points 3 years ago
Imagine saying a woman isn’t a woman and thinking you’re being civil.
You’ll find an instance that fits your liking though, I’m sure. Most other instances won’t be federated with it but you don’t want to live in our “liberal echo chamber” anyway.
dual_sport_dork 22 points 3 years ago
ITT: OP discovers that his problem actually is just that his opinions are odious.
kwekkie -17 points 3 years ago
Yes, that would be civil. It's just an opinion. It is not attacking or name calling.
But let me ask you this: if you agree with all this, why did you come here then? Reddit would be great for you then, no?
nickwitha_k 14 points 3 years ago
Opinions are for things like whether pineapple belongs on pizza, not whether people deserve the right to exist or have equal rights.
yolobrolofosholo 13 points 3 years ago
Believe it or not, there are more factors than political views..
NocturnalMorning 20 points 3 years ago
That's because it's backed up by science dude. Go be a bigot somewhere else.
NocturnalMorning 15 points 3 years ago
Would you even listen if someone linked peer reviewed research to you? Sounds like you're just looking for your own echochamber to reinforce your own belief system (which is ironically what you say you're trying to get away from)
reanmachine 5 points 3 years ago
I'll just leave this here:
slazer2au 9 points 3 years ago
Different lemmy servers have different rules. If you find you do not like the rules of one server you can simply delete your account and make a new account on another server and sign back up for the same communities.
To view what other Lemmy servers are linked check out the instances page on the footer of each page. example: https://lemmy.world/instances
kwekkie -23 points 3 years ago
In theory that would go for subreddits as well. But that's not the whole story. I got suspended from ALL of Reddit because of "hate speech". Not just the subreddit. I think it might be because users reported the comment, but I'm not sure.
Veraticus 29 points 3 years ago
If you got suspended for Reddit because of hate speech, maybe it's time to self-reflect about why everyone thinks your speech is hateful, rather than trying to find more and more awful and esoteric places in which to speak.
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