Can these be formal?

a year ago by iamericandre to c/malefashionadvice

Pretty much title, I’ve got a formal wedding to go to in October and I’m not a formal person. Can I wear these docs without looking like a jerk

korthrun 14 points a year ago

The fashion crowd has chimed in and they're certainly not wrong. That said from a practical standpoint, outside of the one-off fashionistas and overzealous folk working the door, very few people will be paying that much attention to your shoes if they're matching your pants.

I am completely wrong if this is a snooty crowd having a wedding at a country club or something extreme like that. For the most part though your average person is enjoying the wedding not inspecting everybody's shoes.

If you want to Google some general guidance, formal is generally somewhere between cocktail and Black tie.

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iamericandre 14 points a year ago

Second option are these

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JandroDelSol 13 points a year ago

yeah, these are better

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Attack0fthenerd 9 points a year ago

Love the docs, but go with these. These are unobtrusive and nice.

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BigGovernment 9 points a year ago

No, they won't look right with anything formal. They're fine for "office casual" or something, but if the host has asked for formal attire this isn't it.

If you like these, try for a more conventional tassel loafer. The problem is really the sole, and stitching.

These being Docs, that puts the price around $150 to $200. That's good news, you'll have a lot of options in the same price range. Start shopping early, especially if you have to do mail order. A wedding can be a long day, especially if you're dancing at the reception afterwards. It may take you a little while to find something that works for you.

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BenchpressMuyDebil 8 points a year ago

There's just a lot happening with these shoes:

the yellow contrast stitching
the tassels
the "penny-like" leather horizontal strap to which the tassels are attached to
the kilt

Whoever was designing those knew they're mixing three types of loafers (tassel, penny, kilted). They're pretty much designed to grab attention. And with classic formal menswear the goal is to normally do the opposite.

Even if the rest of the outfit was perfect (e.g. if you had loose wool pants with a large leg opening to cover most of the shoes etc.) it'd still end up looking fashion forward at best if you pulled it off. It'd help if you're 18-22 yrs old.

I know it sucks having to buy yet another pair of shoes just to wear them once for a wedding. You still have a lot of time till October so maybe thrift/Vinted some cap toe oxfords till then?

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Imgonnatrythis 3 points a year ago

I agree. These look like a way to cram more elements of flair into a tgi Friday's waiter outfit. I'm afraid that outside of that scenario I don't see theses going well with anything I'm afraid.

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iamericandre 2 points a year ago

What about a more subtle loafer

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BenchpressMuyDebil 3 points a year ago

Yeah, penny loafers or tassel loafers would work as something more relaxed. Depends what they mean by "formal" on the invitation. Black or dark brown. Maybe you could find Sebago Joe penny loafers on sale somewhere as a lower end option. G.H. Bass Weejuns are supposedly not good these days though. Massimo Dutti should have something if you're shooting lower and are in EU.

For a step up from Sebago in EU there's Meermin, Carmina, TLB Mallorca etc.

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iamericandre 3 points a year ago

Says tux preferred but black suit is ok too. I’m a little annoyed here because I have to buy a new suit since I never really attend formal events.

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MedicPigBabySaver 2 points a year ago

You like kilts? Ever worn one? They are formal enough for weddings and a shit ton more fun.

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dustyData 2 points a year ago

My rule was, if I am attending an event rarely in my life, then rental is more appropriate. But semi frequent, like one event a year, buy a black suit. It doesn't hurt to have, and also a blue navy blazer for semi formal events were you have dress up but it is not tux formal. A black suit can be made very formal with white shirt, tie and loafers. Or more informal with fun shirts and more fashion shoes for other big events. A well tailored suit is a powerful item in the wordrobe.

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BenchpressMuyDebil 2 points a year ago

Oh if it's a tux (as in, not "suit" but actual tuxedo) then you can't really do loafers. I think the only option that makes sense here is black cap toe oxford.

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lowspeedchase 5 points a year ago

Penny Tassel loafers and docs having an evil love child makes me uncomfortable. I felt something though so bravo to this art.

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teft 4 points a year ago

If you’re getting off the mayflower, sure.

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ccunning 3 points a year ago

I thought “formal” meant tux and “semi-formal” meant suit, but I could be wrong.

I think you could probably make this work with the latter, but they won’t really work with the former.

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noodles 1 point a year ago

That's how it's supposed to be but at least in the US except in very specific crowds the decisions have blurred considerably/aren't known

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JandroDelSol 2 points a year ago

I've seen people show up to weddings and funerals in fucking overalls, you're fine

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StarvingMartist 2 points a year ago

Would have to see the rest of the outfit to make an informed decision with this one, typically you would wear wingtips but you might be able to get away with this. All the attentions on the bride and groom after all

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iamericandre 1 point a year ago

Double breasted black suit white shirt black tie. This my attempt at formal

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QuoVadisHomines 2 points a year ago

No loafer is formal enough for a wedding in the West traditionally speaking

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noodles 1 point a year ago

Eh, I've worn loafers to two weddings and been plenty formal. One was at a camp and one was in a barn though, so it depends heavily on context.

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QuoVadisHomines 1 point a year ago

One was at a camp and one was in a barn which suggests they aren’t that formal.

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noodles 1 point a year ago

Sure, they weren't that formal, but they were weddings in the West where loafers were appropriate, so it depends heavily on the wedding itself. That being said OP has clarified that this wedding is black tie optional, so loafers wouldn't be.

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Professorozone 1 point a year ago

Not in my opinion.

Then again, I've seen weddings where people brought their snakes, so who knows.

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