Vast majority of Israelis believe there are 'no innocents' in Gaza, says poll

a year ago by geneva_convenience to c/world

Survey comes amid rising racist attacks against Palestinians in occupied territories and Palestinian citizens of Israel

A poll conducted by an Israeli organisation has revealed that the vast majority of Israeli Jews believe there are "no innocents" in the Gaza Strip. aChord, a research group linked to Hebrew University specialising in social psychology, said 76 percent of the Jewish public partially or fully agree that "there are no innocents in Gaza".

The survey found that even among Israeli opposition voters, 47 percent fully supported the claim, while among Jewish opposition voters, a majority also agrees with the claim. Researcher Ron Gerlitz described the results of the survey as "difficult findings" that indicated attitudes that fed into acceptance of Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab sentiment in Israel has been growing in recent years, targeting both Palestinians in the occupied territories and Palestinian citizens of Israel. Last week, a Palestinian bus driver in Israel was attacked by a group of Jewish youths shouting "death to Arabs", the latest incident in a string of racist attacks on Palestinian citizens of Israel. The bus driver, Mohammed Abd al-Hadi, told Ynet the incident happened after he asked the young passengers to stop screaming and vandalising the vehicle. "They insulted me and shouted racist sayings like 'Jew - good; Arab - son of a removed' and 'death to Arabs'," he said.

SnotFlickerman 62 points a year ago

That's literally why everyone else with a brain on the planet considers what they're doing a genocide... because they have decided CHILDREN are "not innocent."

What an absolutely fucked up way to live and think.

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Lucidlethargy 19 points a year ago

It's sociopathic behavior on a large scale. Three quarters of the population... This is insane.

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NotKyloRen 12 points a year ago

I don't know why people act surprised when it's been generations of this:

Old: https://youtu.be/MQ1TAOibLss

And young: https://youtu.be/FSlUpltK5Kw

There are much older videos of kids in their living rooms and kids in other classrooms interacting with teachers, talking about how they're going to take back the land and wipe out the people.

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herseycokguzelolacak 3 points a year ago

This is how religious lunatics think. Zionists are radical religious nutjobs.

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billwashere 42 points a year ago

Well then i guess a vast majority of Israelis are evil genocidal douchebags.

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decended_being 7 points a year ago

Propaganda's a helluva drug

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CanadaPlus 1 point a year ago

Most people are, given the chance.

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PanGodofPanic 3 points a year ago

...no, no they really aren't. It takes a lifetime of propaganda to indoctrinate someone into thinking that way. There's a reason most militaries have to work very, very hard to psychologically condition soldiers to actually pull the trigger with another human on the other end of the barrel: it's deeply antithetical to standard human instincts. This shit is intentionally, specifically induced sociopathy.

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

thats why they have military propaganda, either through shows or movies.

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CanadaPlus 1 point a year ago

History is just full of it, though, and somebody starts the ball rolling over and over again. Propaganda is a big part of it, but if you look in really close detail it's pretty much the same people who make it and who consume it.

I should say, "given the choice between jumping on the genocide bandwagon, and a loss of land, power and acceptance of peers".

A nation of genocide survivors starting a genocide is pretty much proof anyone could do it.

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NOT_RICK 34 points a year ago

Have those kids tried not being born in Palestine?

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

or try not getting bombed, or try not existing there- says the israelis int eh polls.

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Steve 20 points a year ago

These are dark times.

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bufalo1973 8 points a year ago

It would be fun to hear that 76% scream if someone said the same about the Jewish kids in concentration camps.

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

there would be international uproar by the APIAC, and from jewish Donors, plus pr-zionist groups.

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ArgumentativeMonotheist 7 points a year ago

How else could you rationalize your/your loved ones' murderous past and/or present as an IDF soldier? God won't look at these vile transgressors kindly... but they aren't the first European colonizers to find themselves in this position, ofc.

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tensor_nightly69 4 points a year ago

It would definitely be nice if there were a god to punish these people, but sadly that's not the case.

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ArgumentativeMonotheist 0 points a year ago

I'll remain hopeful. šŸ¤ž

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CanadaPlus 1 point a year ago

You don't even need to say European, really. Japan still isn't sorry. We do a lot of this as a species.

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herseycokguzelolacak 6 points a year ago

Data such as this convinces me more and more that there are no innocents in Tel Aviv.

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theacharnian 4 points a year ago

It would be great to get a link to the actual study.

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geneva_convenience 6 points a year ago path: 0 19108695 19109181, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 1
theacharnian 2 points a year ago

Thanks!

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humanoidchaos 3 points a year ago

I feel bad for the Israelis that have to deal with the backlash 1000 years from now.

Israel should honestly be treated like Antarctica at this point, only with more international security.

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CanadaPlus 6 points a year ago

I'm honestly worried about the backlash personally, even though I support Palestine and have never been to the Middle East.

Nice job, Zionists. You've breathed new life into antisemitism.

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geneva_convenience 4 points a year ago

It's going to be like South Africa. Most of them will leave back to Europe the moment their genocide party is over.

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CanadaPlus 0 points a year ago

Do you think Europe would take them in? They're not too fond of migrants who haven't even done anything, these days.

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nearhat 3 points a year ago

A not-insignificant number of Israelis are recent immigrants or descendants thereof who maintain dual citizenship, ā€œjust in caseā€. Law abiding citizens can always return to their nations.

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CanadaPlus 4 points a year ago

Uh, looks like it's estimated at about 10%.

Which is honestly lower than I even would have expected. Because, yeah, just in case.

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Tollana1234567 1 point a year ago

especially with all the anti-immigration propaganda surfacing recently, Turkey making statement against ISrael, as they dont want the migrants either.

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Lushed_Lungfish 2 points a year ago

Well the Israelis have been doing their best to get rid of them...

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SculptusPoe -13 points a year ago
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nearhat 14 points a year ago

This myth needs to end. Just because Ashkenazis were hated among their European brethren doesn’t mean Jewish Lebanese, Palestinians, Iraqis and others were despised and persecuted similarly.

This Ashkenazi monopoly on the term Jews needs to be called out for what it is. White supremacy.

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CanadaPlus 1 point a year ago

Yeah, imma go ahead and say "let's be the only significant minority in medieval Europe" was never going to end well.

Meanwhile, there was no dietary or quasi-polytheism conflict with Muslims. By all accounts relations were usually better, although I'd assume not perfect, and they would have had to pay the extra tax.

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nearhat 2 points a year ago

It’s not a contest of which group is most persecuted.

The Romani continue to be persecuted in Europe to this day, but I don’t believe there’s a racist, settler colonial movement to carve out an ā€˜ancestral Romani homeland’ in South Asia and drive out the indigenous inhabitants, based on non-exclusive ties to the land.

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CanadaPlus 1 point a year ago

I never said it was a contest. I made an observation about why Ashkenazi Jews had a hard time historically, and then agreed that you're probably right about the Sephardis, although I know less detail there.

The Romani continue to be persecuted in Europe to this day, but I don’t believe there’s a racist, settler colonial movement to carve out an ā€˜ancestral Romani homeland’ in South Asia and drive out the indigenous inhabitants, based on non-exclusive ties to the land.

So Jews are uniquely racist? You see how that's ironic, right?

The difference is the particulars of history, don't try to make it about more than that or you're just another part of the problem.

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SculptusPoe -6 points a year ago
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nearhat 9 points a year ago

What intrinsic hate? Refuting conflating a white European group with a multiethnic religious group is somehow hateful of the whole white European group as a whole?

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mrdown 12 points a year ago

Nobody forced zionist terrorists to migrate to palestine and force a state on local population thst supposedly according to your stupid progaganda always hated jews. You can read about the yemeni jews who was welcomed by palestine, worked together and participated to each other festivities. You can read about some arab leadership advocating for a one state solution sibce the beginning, you can read zionists leaders statement showing that they was the one who want to destroy palestinians

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Eheran -7 points a year ago

Are you suggesting that the Jews were not constantly hated, threatened and attacked? That is supposed to be propaganda?

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mrdown 12 points a year ago

Yes, it's propaganda. Yes, there is period in history where jews where persecuted by Arab and Muslims or Christians and other periods where Arabs and Muslim protected jews . Each pogrom was made by different leadership and circumstance That doesn't make Arabs inherently jews haters and especially not Palestinians who many of them are just jews that converted to Islam.

None of your excuses and selective history usage will change the fact that Zionists forced a state on the local population and ethnically cleansed them during the Nekba including 50000 Christians . Israel is currently occupying Gaza and open about destroying Palestine and Palestinians . Many Zionists doesn't even acknowledge that Palestinians exists

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CanadaPlus 2 points a year ago

Yes, it is. Jews have been hated and attacked. Like any number of minorities in any number of places around the world.

The reason it's made out to be some kind of natural constant unique to us is because that releases us from any responsibility to consider our own actions. People are always looking for a way off the hook.

In Israel, Jews are much stronger and not too much less numerous. The historical situation is inverted.

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geneva_convenience 11 points a year ago

Israel is the only aggressor.

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frongt 3 points a year ago

77 years is not a long time.

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Eheran -4 points a year ago

Jews were hated, holocausted etc. prior to the creation of Israel too.

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nearhat 17 points a year ago

Ashkenazi persecution in Europe does not translate to a universal hatred of Jews as a whole.

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ArgumentativeMonotheist 6 points a year ago

"Europeans hate other Europeans, the rest of the world pays the price" could be used to describe many catastrophes in the recent to not so recent past, lol.

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geneva_convenience 5 points a year ago

Turns out Europe is not the Middle East or Ottoman Empire.

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Treetrimmer 2 points a year ago

1940s and thereafter does not constitute a long time

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