Russian soldier admits proudly his comrades were killing POWs

3 years ago by SeaJ to c/worldnews

A Russian soldier of Wagner private military company admitted in an interview with a Russian Ryazan-based outlet Svoya…
Shdwdrgn 66 points 3 years ago

Wow the sheer lack of self-recognition in this guy... Dude, you ARE the Nazi that you pretend to be fighting against. It doesn't matter if you're American or Russian, you 'proud boys' are all the same.

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The_Mixer_Dude 31 points 3 years ago

What the fuck...

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SMITHandWESSON -98 points 3 years ago

War is ugly. That's probably happening on both sides. You try not killing a guy that's was shooting to kill you.

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marx2k 60 points 3 years ago

POWs typically aren't shooting to kill you

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SMITHandWESSON -44 points 3 years ago

That's after you whip thier ass

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YaaAsantewaa -73 points 3 years ago

Then don't bomb Russian civilians and they won't fight back

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Ignacio 45 points 3 years ago

Bombing Russian civilians bad, bombing Ukrainian civilians good, right?

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bitsplease 43 points 3 years ago

Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs?

Until you do, gtfo with "they're probably both doing it"

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vacuumflower 1 point 3 years ago

Actually, there have been very disturbing videos from both Russians and Ukrainians, featuring gruesome deaths of people quite definitely unarmed and taken PoW. Mostly from Russians, but not every one.

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SMITHandWESSON 0 points 3 years ago

Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs?

If they have half a brain they probably wouldn't admit to that as it would be self-incriminating.🤣

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chowder -12 points 3 years ago

Eh, there is some evidence of it occurring here and there. I think I have seen like 5 or 6 of Ukrainians torturing or killing POWs. If you want, I can go get some links to videos and news articles. It's pretty rare and seems way more prevalent on the Russian side, who have filmed themselves committing some truly barbaric things, including emasculations and decapitations.

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Johanno 8 points 3 years ago

Well maybe. Humans are the worst. However we have evidence that russia is killing more than taking prisoners and kidnapping children.

Also every information we get about this war is most probably placed in the internet on purpose. You can't trust either Ukraine or Russian news.

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YaaAsantewaa -47 points 3 years ago

Those are Ukranians, both of them, no Russian would say that and since none of you know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian it's too easy to fool people

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Ignacio 24 points 3 years ago

If they're Ukrainians, why the interviewer says "Добрый день", in Russian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "je") instead of "Хороший день" or "Добрий ранок", in Ukrainian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "e")?

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Unkn8wn69 -9 points 3 years ago

Yes and you can neither trust the western news. The Nato and the west uses the conflict to their own purposes. Like every country does. This fight between Russia and the West isn't new. We've seen it long before.

I totally disagree with the war but i also find it irresponsible to only speak up when "bad commie Russia" does something. But when the US kills thousands of civilians in completely unjustified wars around the world nobody cares in the west.

Since the fall of the Warsaw pact there is no more any justification for the existence of the Nato alliance.

I'm anti-war and i think this should end as quickly as it began but what Zelensky is doing is no more than selling out his country to the west. For the next centuries Ukraine will be in debt to the western nations and by that, enslaved by them.

If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. Everyone has to make compromises in this war. No side will have a total win, but a first world war like trench war that takes years isn't helpful to neither of the sides. Only more people will die. What is more important, that the people live in Russian donbass or Ukrainian donbass, or that the people will die.

Also the west doesn't care about Ukraine, all they care about is hurting Russia. Some years back nobody in Europe or Nato would've considered Ukraine as a viable partner. Now out of nowhere they do

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billy_bollocks 21 points 3 years ago

I served in Iraq. Shooting an unarmed combatant is murder.

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SMITHandWESSON -17 points 3 years ago

I never said it wasn't, I just said shit like that happens during war.

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billy_bollocks 15 points 3 years ago

Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty

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yata 7 points 3 years ago

No, you said you assumed shit like that happens during war on both sides.

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pleasemakesense 15 points 3 years ago

When are you guys going to abandon this tankie infested shit hole of a world news sub and go to another one?

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Corkyskog 2 points 3 years ago

Wouldn't they just move to whatever the new Community is? I think you either need to convince your instance to defederate, join something like Beehaw, or create your own instance if you don't want to see those comments.

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pleasemakesense 1 point 3 years ago

The world news sub on .world doesn't have this issue, probably because the mods deal with genocide deniers there. It's good to remember .ml has been here since the beginning and most of the /c/'s here were created when basically a majority of users were tankies

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lemann 2 points 3 years ago

What is a "POW"?

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i18nde 7 points 3 years ago

Prisoner of war.

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lemann 1 point 3 years ago

Thankyouu

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palordrolap -1 points 3 years ago

A couple of things to ponder:

  1. Assume true. What would Putin say or do to this soldier if they were to meet? Publicly? Privately?

  2. Assume a Ukrainian soldier has done the same. What would Zelenskyy say or do to his soldier? Publicly? Privately?

Think about those for a while. What will people of all priorities (pro-Russia, pro-Ukraine, anti-conflict, etc.) think about the decisions that are made and things that are said?

I don't have the answers to these questions, but know what my guesses would be and I can see people of either side of this conflict giving any one of the possible answers and justifying it either way.

e.g. Imagine Putin has his soldier court-martialled and shot; Some pro-Russians will proclaim this a strong move. Others will say that he should not have done that because those Ukrainians deserved to be murdered and the soldier did the right thing. Likewise if Putin was to throw this soldier in prison, some might say it wasn't enough and others might say that he shouldn't even be in there. (NB: I don't believe anyone deserves to be murdered. Ukrainian or Russian. This is all hypothetical.)

Alternatively, we might have Putin outwardly congratulate this soldier. This would be an internationally unpopular move, more-so than having the soldier shot, because the West kind of expects Putin to "deal with" people who make him look bad, but some pro-Russians would proclaim it a strong move. Others will think that it was a bad idea but say nothing.

Zelenskyy might have his own soldier court-martialled and shot. If he is truly interested in aligning with the West as Russia fears, he probably wouldn't do this. He'd instead have the soldier tried in court, and if found guilty, possibly even turned over to Russia if it could be guaranteed the soldier was going to be imprisoned for his crimes and not tortured or shot.

Would Russia consider turning over their own POW murderers to Ukraine? Probably not. They don't recognise Ukraine.

It would be nice if they did though. If they realised where their soldiers and tanks were they might be able to get them out of there and this conflict would be over. Enough lives have been lost to make up for any transgressions either way at this point.

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zephyreks -2 points 3 years ago

Euromaidan press, truly the pinnacle of modern journalism

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i18nde -8 points 3 years ago

Yes, American soldiers would never do such things. They are distributing bananas and chocolate during war times to POW, have a lot of occasions to do so during the last decades.

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SeaJ 5 points 3 years ago

What do American soldiers have to do with this? That is not even a good whataboutism.

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YaaAsantewaa -117 points 3 years ago

Spamming the same fake news?

We need a rule against posting nazi websites and yes, this is a nazi website and no, the Russians aren't the bad guys

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Ignacio 45 points 3 years ago

Yes, you're right. There is no bad thing in killing and raping women, children and elder people, and there is no bad thing in bombing kindergartens, hospitals, and even theaters with the word "ДІТЕИ" written at the front.

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YaaAsantewaa -79 points 3 years ago

Russians are not the ones waving SS symbols around, that's the Ukrainian Nazis, it's also the Ukrainians who are the ones attacking ethnic minorities and supporting dictators in the Middle-East

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mim 41 points 3 years ago path: 0 2667957 2669694 2670050 2670916, hotness: undefined, score: 41, children: 0
reason 25 points 3 years ago

Russia is democratic nation?

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Johanno 32 points 3 years ago

Of course! They vote regularly! Sometimes even double the population of a city is voting!

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vacuumflower 3 points 3 years ago
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SeaJ 14 points 3 years ago

Do you have proof they are Nazis?

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Dr_Cog 21 points 3 years ago

Nazis famously elect Jewish leaders, so there's one

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vacuumflower 1 point 3 years ago

Not that funny really. A Nazi is a person following a certain ideology, which takes only one level of generalization to imagine a Jewish Nazi being Nazi to Germans, Poles and Frenchmen. One level is not that much.

And references to German Conservative symbols are kinda popular among Ukrainian nationalists. Poverty and shitty education through the years of independence do that. Not much different from Russia itself or many other former Soviet republics (somehow European, of course, it's hard to imagine a Nazi Uzbek or Tajik, but Tajik nationalists love Achaemenid empire and Samanid kingdom very much) or even former Warsaw Pact countries.

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