Inside the AI Porn Marketplace Where Everything and Everyone Is for Sale

3 years ago by rhabarba to c/technology

Generative AI tools have empowered amateurs and entrepreneurs to build mind-boggling amounts of non-consensual porn.

Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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Ertebolle 160 points 3 years ago

Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.

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disposabletentacle 80 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we've ever seen about society, is not going to happen.

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Ertebolle 24 points 3 years ago

True, but people already do 80% of that - I don't think the stigma attached to "AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests" is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you're doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.

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Steeve 16 points 3 years ago

Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don't think you have to worry about society telling you that you can't have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don't do it in your parents living room this time.

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c0mbatbag3l 1 point 3 years ago

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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icepuncher69 -3 points 3 years ago

I mean... its not like masturbation isnt already mocked and shamed already around the world, its not like thats ever stoped the more perverted ones that have weird kinks. And even if theres legislations against it (which there hasnt been any serious one afak since the middle ages) the wankers are always gonna win, probably because they have more stamina.

Edit: now im not saying they should be legislated, imho the government has no bussines on ones sex life as long as all parts involved are concenting adults or being solo, just that they always have and probably will be shamed, why? I dont know, but probably religion has something to do there. I wont judge anybody though.

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ChaoticEntropy 47 points 3 years ago

Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.

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warmaster 21 points 3 years ago

Why learn to fuck people when you can just buy The Wanker 9000™?

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afraid_of_zombies 11 points 3 years ago

Meh. If someone wants to opt out they pretty much are going to do it. Besides would you rather deal with them? Imagine if everyone you were around didn't have a means to entertain themselves at all times. They would be engaged, they would create drama, they would tell other people what they thought of them.

Sometimes in industrial equipment we put in random alarms to be triggered so the people who are supposed to stand there have to do something vs wandering around causing trouble. Especially in union plants.

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vacuumflower 10 points 3 years ago

Well, to rule out the "misanthropic" part one doesn't really need to have a fulfilling sex life, just meet a few people (suppose, women) who'd make them like humanity again.

About disengaged and disinterested - it's more about engagement and interest being hard.

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Thorny_Thicket 5 points 3 years ago

These men used to gather on the streets and start breaking shit and kicking grannies back in the day to express their frustration. Them withdrawing to their moms basements smoking weed and jerking off to porn might not be ideal but perhaps not the worst thing either. That's why we don't see a significant uptick in crime despite the ever increasing amount of such men.

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IIIIII 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah let’s just give young men sex robots and make them even more detached from community and relationships

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applejacks 14 points 3 years ago

lmao that is not fulfilling

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roboticide 2 points 3 years ago

Some might think so.

I remember a guy on reddit a few years ago arguing vehemently that their hand was better than an actual living woman's vagina, to say nothing of a Fleshlight.

The denial was strong in that individual's case, but if enough incels are already in that deep it's probably gonna be enough for many of them.

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Stanwich 10 points 3 years ago

Except instead they will treat ai girls as filthy as they want and then expect all women to act like that. Then not understand why they don't........ yeah pretty sure that's what's going to happen.

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ThirdWorldOrder 33 points 3 years ago

Just like video games taught me to shoot everything

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afraid_of_zombies 25 points 3 years ago

Makes sense. I grew up playing videogames where I would shot stuff that was in my way. That is why in real life I use a gun to get thru traffic. I also played a game for a while where I rode on the back of a lizard and ate mushrooms to grow larger. Which is pretty much my typical weekday.

For you see I have not hit the level of mental development of most 3 year olds and can not separate our playtime from the real world. Just like the hypothetical people in your example.

Now if you excuse me I plan to make bricks vanish by arranging them in a straight line wall-to-wall in my house.

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Nepenthe 21 points 3 years ago

Without question. The ability to have sex with something isn't going to prevent them from being socially dysfunctional and would, if anything, make it noticeably worse. You're getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex. They're just easier to avoid addressing now and your dolls don't demand basic respect.

I don't think I'd come out too much against it, personally. People got biological imperatives, I'm not gonna protest against dildos. But the financial and mental health crises both remain and can't be circumvented like that.

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hglman 13 points 3 years ago

Why would being sexually fulfilled make men more shitty to women? Perhaps aloof, but that is different from hateful.

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z3rOR0ne 8 points 3 years ago

I'd push back on that and say that's fear mongering. The scenario you're describing MAY occur IF "they" don't witness social interactions with IRL girls at all, and that includes video/virtual meetups, video recordings of IRL girls interacting etc.

"They" would have to have never seen a female person in any media other than their AI sexbots, which I find incredibly unlikely that this could become the norm.

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czarrie 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it's a great idea, if these people don't, like, interact with the world writ large

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whatisallthis 7 points 3 years ago

The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.

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FilthyHands 11 points 3 years ago

I for one welcome our new sexbot overlords.

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afraid_of_zombies 4 points 3 years ago

I don't see how. It is just porn but more specific. You could get the same results before this but with a tiny bit more work. It should have as much impact on humanity as did on-demand streaming did. On the individual level this could maybe put an end to all the not-so-ethically produced porn.

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applejacks -11 points 3 years ago

lemmy coomers will never concede this obvious point

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elouboub 6 points 3 years ago

The human reproductive rate will plummet once we can have VR with sensory input.

Future Sex is a great anthology series about it.

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Ertebolle 21 points 3 years ago

I'm cool with this, we need a lot fewer humans anyway and particularly so in countries rich enough for people to be able to afford VR sex rigs.

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ThirdWorldOrder 3 points 3 years ago

More for us then boys

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FaceDeer 1 point 3 years ago

That's science fiction.

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JuzoInui 5 points 3 years ago

Ahhh, you watched the Red Dwarf episode “Better than Life”

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j4k3 2 points 3 years ago

Welp we all know you're eating steak in the Matrix.

AI porn is interesting for its extreme detail in systems that were not quite designed for it, and what has been achieved with extremely small model sizes. Like a typical chat model of what seems like an equivalent quality as far as accurate detail comprehension is two to three times larger. It is hard to objectively compare these two, but this is my intuitive/highly speculative opinion.

That said, in is hilarious how much some model checkpoints can troll someone. Let's just say, after my casual experiments to explore how LoRAs and other modifications and enhancements work, there would be many PTSD experiences for anyone that tries this. You might just find yourself reorienting your preferences every time you blink.

Also, if the option is available, you run the serious risk of it becoming an alternative lifestyle, especially amongst those that pursue an academic path and must stay free from distraction. If this is experienced at a younger age, it may remain as a permanent choice. It objectifies relationships and that may prove difficult to change.

I think you will find the only barrier to relationships is really the person in question's state of mind and willingness to put in effort. If a skateboard has aspirations to board a hundred million dollar super yacht, that's a mental health issue. However, outside of mismanaged birth policies where the sexes are disproportionately represented, I'm a strong believer that there is a skateboard for every skateboard, and at least a dock and dingy for every super yacht.

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WidowsFavoriteSon 16 points 3 years ago

wtf did I just read.

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iopq 1 point 3 years ago

The birth rate is low enough already

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thebrownhaze -2 points 3 years ago

The complete opposite is true. That would be a death of dispar filled distopia. Do we not have enough virgins jacking to internet porn all day with crippling depression.

People need relationships not better internet porn

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z3rOR0ne 3 points 3 years ago

Oh ok, let me just put this genie back in the bottle then.../s

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AfricanExpansionist -8 points 3 years ago

You would have been into eugenics in the 1930s

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