Socialising, interacting, expressing ourselves? Is this place a medical journal or a research paper? Is any of this necessary? We could remove 99% of the posts as they're not necessary. None of this stuff we're doing here is necessary for our lives. (actually might be a detriment). Are you necessary? Am I necessary? The world would still rotate. What kind of philosophical nightmare are you trying to uncover?

A friendly good luck wish? yeah it was :)

I think it would be reasonable if you did ban prolific repeat offenders personally. Obviously not sending DMs, but they're clearly not interested - you would be helping them curate their own feeds.

Y’know, I think this might be a symptom of a problem in Lemmy more than a problem of people.

I’ve noticed that sometimes the feed gives me a sudden influx with dozens of post for the same community, and so after the 30th post about the same thing it’s pretty easy to go “tired of this, don’t care!”

I know for sure I got banned from some AI slop communities more-or-less that way. So that’s a blessing.

Yeah, true that. If I had to engage in rampant speculation, I would say there are two possibilities:

1. There isn't somebody else who's willing to put in the thankless work day after day to keep the big LW communities free of actually-objectionable content for free, and so they're basically stuck with Jordan whether or not he is doing a good job
2. There are some moderators who want to make quieter but much more explicitly malicious moderation, and it's kind of nice that Jordan can be a lightning-rod for mod criticism and cause a smokescreen of drama while they're doing that, so people heavily advocate for keeping him on behind the scenes in some way

Either or both might be true. Like people said in the original Jordan complainfest thread, they've known about this for literally years at this point, so I agree it seems a little unlikely that things would change now. Kaplan tried to say that new information has come to light now which is leading them to re-evaluate, but that's honestly not really all that credible to me. I don't really know, but if I had to guess I would guess that they'll keep him on just because whatever structural issues led to them keeping him on in the past just haven't changed that I am aware of.

I can tell you also that atomicpoet, for instance, making this decision didn’t come out of a vacuum on this point.

Clearly lol. If anything it is a strong point in piefed.social's favor, is that they're willing to exercise common sense and take action about dumb behavior by their moderators.

For the replacement bot you offered, I did pass it on to the person who coded the MBFC bot, I honestly don’t know what happened to it after that.

Okay, so when you said:

Specifically, with the MBFC bot, yeah, I thought, and still think, it's a good idea. Was it perfect? Well, no, but it was the best we could do for free. Or free-ish, TBH I'm not sure if there were fees involved in the API use. I can tell you the alternates I looked at were more money than I personally would pay.

But when the complaints on the bot came in, I told people honestly "Hey, I'm open, what's an alternative?"

At best the response was silence, at worst it was angry noises.

... did you forget that all of that had happened, or what led you to summarize it in that objectively inaccurate way? It wasn't just me either, the people you summarize as "rabidly anti-bot" actually took a ton of time to explain their reasons in detail and offer alternatives, this is just ridiculous trying to pretend that they were the ones being stubborn and childish about it.

Honestly I'm not sure even what response I am looking for from this. Just making the point I guess, but it's already been hashed over to the moon and back. Feel free to respond or not, I don't think it will change anyone's mind unless you have some kind of really great explanation or dramatic reason for saying it this way, which seems unlikely.

For the Canadian thing? I made my position clear multiple times, I’m not re-hashing months old Lemmy drama.

(For those just joining us, Jordan isn't Canadian and made a mistake about terminology in the Canadian governmental system, which is fine, but then he started taking mod action against the correct terminology as "misinformation," and when many people including Canadians who are obviously familiar with it and lemmy.world admins tried to explain it to him, they all just kind of got this type of response.)

(Honestly like I say I also see no benefit to me addressing these issues further. As Skavau said, it seems like it's more an issue at this point of, Jordan isn't planning on changing his methods of interaction, and the question is what the rest of Lemmy does about it.)

Yeah, I get that. And you're right, you can do whatever you want including deciding "this community is all just wrong and I'm going to make something right," and that's the nice thing about user-hosted networks like this. And I've certainly come down on the side of "the Lemmy community can get lost because the majority is wrong on whatever issue we're talking about" in the past.

Personally in my judgement I don't really see it as harassment in this case, I just see people disagreeing strongly with your actions and then getting snarky or insulting about it as people are wont to do -- like I said, the only thing I really know about you is that you started banning people for downvotes and "bro" both of which seem ridiculous to me. (And also a tactical error, since rightly or wrongly it'll invite a kind of dogpiling publicity which I don't think you want.) But yeah, everyone has the ability to draw their own distinction and follow through on their own server / own community based on you being right and everyone else being wrong versus the other way around.

And just because someone doesn’t get along with another person

TIL using a colloquialism is the same thing as not getting along.

to that person's spaces

Ah, so...

It seems like you want yo choose how you are seen and have a eorld that includes others but has no room for them to take any agency. You're big on concept that things are owned.

How's that different from having your personal site or blog? Because that sounds like what you want, instead of a fediverse instance

But if the space includes people, this stops being so simple.

Yeah, the bit where the owner of infrastructure 'owns' the community feels super weird (bcs community are the people & what they produce, the space is the infrastructure).
But I understand what you are saying.

Thx for the reply.

No, !fediversenews was brought over from Friendica.

!amiga and !record pics were started on piefed.social, and they each had 500 subscribers.

!videogames had 250 subscribers.

!sizz, !blue, and !lumoura were all sizable, but I forget what the exact numbers were.

!eats, !comicbooks, and !books were all new and only had a handful of followers.

There were a few others, I think. But I only posted there sporadically.