Google tries to justify Android's upcoming sideloading restrictions

a year ago by ryujin470 to c/android

Starting in 2026, sideloaded apps will have to come from "verified" developers.

Jestzer 97 points a year ago

And before you know it, Android will no longer be open source for “security” reasons.

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HazardousBanjo 11 points a year ago

I have absolutely zore faith AOSP is long for this world. The GrapheneOS folks need to find a way off yesterday

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Sertou 6 points a year ago

The beauty of open source is that Google can't take it back. The worst they can do is close source their own future development. Meanwhile, the community can fork the last open source release of AOSP. Look at what open source devs did with Audacity, for example.

The real fly in the ointment here is Google already did with device trees and driver binaries for Pixel phones; no longer sharing these with AOSP will have a very chilling effect on custom ROM developers who must now reverse engineer needed configs and drivers.

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Electricd 1 point a year ago

I’ll worried for GrapheneOS because I know the dev doesn’t really want to implement QoL improvements or design updates, so we’re currently only relying on Google's good will with AOSP for that, and we can’t expect much I’m afraid

Don’t get me wrong, GOS is good and all, but some nice features are bugged or getting killed. It might be worth delaying casual updates to fix those

Now we have a new threat: no more third party stores. At this point iOS would even be better, at least there’s some very limited sideloading

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Jaysyn 6 points a year ago

Just like Apple, there will be no way to run apps like ICEBlock. Or anything else they don't want you to run.

It's time to make Pine rich.

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Electricd 1 point a year ago

You can currently sideload a bit on iOS, but it’s a massive pain

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Jaysyn 1 point a year ago

Can you sideload ICEBlock?

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Electricd 3 points a year ago

If they upload the .ipa file, yes

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Sanctus 38 points a year ago

So like what mobile OS is there now? Graphene which itself is forked from Android? Like we have barely made it to 20 years with this tech and its locked the fuck up with no options for the people. Boutta be using a dumbphone for sure.

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skuzz 13 points a year ago
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heythatsprettygood 9 points a year ago

There's still a surprising amount of devices made by HMD (who own Nokia's consumer phone brand, so you'll sometimes see them as Nokias) that run Series 30+ (think old Nokia software with some very slight modern enhancements) but have 4G hardware to play ball on modern networks.

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skuzz 1 point a year ago
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guy 9 points a year ago

If you want a half functioning phone I've seen something called PostmarketOS. Seems nice and barely working

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heythatsprettygood 15 points a year ago

I really want PostmarketOS to succeed, even to be good enough as a secondary device. The long term support and software flexibility seems so promising, but it is still nowhere near ready for most people.

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guy 5 points a year ago

Me too! I find the concept thrilling, and while I am usually an early adopter of these things, I could never use PostmarketOS as my daily driver. My phone needs to work..

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ZombieMantis 4 points a year ago

There are Linux Mobile OSs making promising developments, like KDE-Mobile. I'm planning on tossing it on a second-device, just to test it for myself.

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NinjaTurtle -8 points a year ago

Graphene is not a fork. They just harden the code published by Google. This is why the recent changes by Google have been causing them more work.

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artyom 37 points a year ago

It is absolutely a fork.

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ChairmanMeow 9 points a year ago

Yes, that is what a fork is.

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cazzmaniandevil 26 points a year ago

Stop calling this sideloading, it's just installing software on a computer. The term makes it an easy 'other' to be distrusted. And this concerns all apps not just apps coming from a different app store. Google wants to control all the apps you're allowed to install by them

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caseyweederman -3 points a year ago

Sideloading is a perfectly good word for a legitimate act.
It's not "just installing software on a computer". It's installing software on a tethered device.
Don't let them twist the word's meaning in order to demonize people.

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6nk06 23 points a year ago

And we have to pay for this? I thought it would be free. What a scam.

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flippinfreebird 11 points a year ago

Think of the shareholders!

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cupcakezealot 20 points a year ago

problem is that you can fork android or make a new linux based os but with manufacturers continuing to lock down bootloaders, good luck getting it on there without making a deal with a phone manufacturer.

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skuzz 6 points a year ago
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TheEighthDoctor 5 points a year ago

plus you can say goodbye to all your banking apps and others that enforce integrity and stuff like that

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ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 13 points a year ago

At this point I think the only thing that may save Google is Larry and Sergey firing Sundar and hitting the reset. Google has been consistently doing the wrong thing for a long time.

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Lucidlethargy 5 points a year ago

It's also worse in every way. All services. All products. They are failing spectacularly.

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jol 3 points a year ago

Users don't matter. They are making more money than ever.

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InnerScientist 10 points a year ago

I read their justifications but I must've missed the part where it justifies anything.

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Electricd 6 points a year ago

Google calculating:

  • no more sideloading, so the privacy and pro freedom people will buy our phones for GrapheneOS
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EtnaAtsume 5 points a year ago

Oh, is this gonna put the kibosh on the Vanced series of apps?

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DoucheBagMcSwag 5 points a year ago

Yep which is why they're doing it

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ikidd 2 points a year ago

Break up Google now.

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Moonrise2473 2 points a year ago

I am saddened by this news 😢

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