The Outer Worlds with ray tracing can't hit 60FPS at paltry 540p resolution with an RTX 5090 and 9800X3D - ray tracing 'performance' mirrors Borderlands 4 fiasco

10 months ago by cm0002 to c/pcgaming

The Outer Worlds sequel does not play particularly well with ray tracing turned off, either.

It's a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4's atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game's ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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ISolox 52 points 10 months ago

As someone playing this on a 3080 with no major issues, just turn off ray tracing. The game really isn't that bad once you turn it off.

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Truscape 30 points 10 months ago

It's quite crazy how much performance you gain from using pre-calculated lighting instead of raytracing. I know it looks worse, but there's gotta be a way to find a happy middle ground, maybe a "raytracing lite" lol.

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snooggums 42 points 10 months ago

I find raytracing adds very little to the look of the vast majority of games unless they are slow enough to focus on shadows or fine details.

Maybe I'm not playing the games that benefit significantly from raytracing.

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real_squids 12 points 10 months ago

Dynamic lighting already exists. Look at Phasmophobia, it's probably one of the heaviest Unity games because it uses it everywhere. Basically every light in that game is able to cast shadows, and it's got a lot of lights. Doesn't have any of the RT noise or lag too.

edit: it doesn't come cheap though, they had to do some downgrades to port it to consoles. Interior candles for example, they're no longer interactive.

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baguettefish 7 points 10 months ago

in this case it doesn't use baked lighting, it still uses lumen, just a software version of it with lower settings. I've tried a couple UE5 games with a hardware/software lumen toggle and every time hardware lumen is significantly slower. it's one of the curses of unreal.

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Kolanaki 11 points 10 months ago

Does raytracing even make the game look noticeably cooler, anyway?

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mic_check_one_two 2 points 10 months ago

No, it’s actually broken entirely and makes the game look worse. That’s why so many people are confused about why they shipped it. Like why not hide the option until it is ready to patch in?

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SolSerkonos 3 points 10 months ago

I've been playing on an RX 6600 @ 1440p with zero problems. I didn't even bother turning it on, so terrible RT performance is news to me.

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frezik 2 points 10 months ago

I have a 3080, too, and I have a feeling it's going to be a perfectly good card for a long, long time.

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Rai 1 point 9 months ago

Heyo yee, I got my 1080 when Destiny 2 came out with a free game deal and kept the card for soooooo long (although fuck you, piece of shit Destiny 2 garbage game that made all of the worst or most predatory decisions ever and I hate you)

AAAAANYWAY the 1080 for so much longer than my previous cards have. Now I’m on a 3070ti and have no urge to upgrade.

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