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hotwarioinyourarea 73 points 3 years ago

Kbin really needs an app to become daily for most people I think. I've spent a lot of time on Lemmy because of Jerboa and the fact this whole thing came about because of Reddit screwing over app devs means people will be looking for that be alternative.

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Saturdaycat 23 points 3 years ago

This is true ! I do enjoy using the PWA app though

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gk99 3 points 3 years ago

It's impressively usable, but there are certainly some problems with it right now. I haven't made a second account to use a Lemmy app because I don't want two accounts to access the same set of content, but I am eagerly awaiting the API coming online so that app devs can start working on a more polished mobile solution.

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Ragnell 12 points 3 years ago

You can install an app from the Kbin mobile page to your phone, though. Just go to the mobile page, there's an install app option under the 3 dots that works.

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pgetsos 6 points 3 years ago

I use Hermit so that I can reload a page. The PWA didn't support any kind of reload unfortunately

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reflex 1 point 3 years ago
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pgetsos 2 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately yes. I have it turned off for now

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Dangdoggo -1 points 3 years ago

I'm using that app and the standard "pull the page all the way down" browser gesture refreshes pages

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ivy 2 points 3 years ago

I wasn't aware that it worked
I am working on an app myself but it's going to be about a month
kbin still doesn't fully have an api so any apps are going to have to wait until it's development is underway

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Ragnell 1 point 3 years ago

The main board updates, but I have the worst time logging in from there or mobile. I think that's my phone and my fat fingers, though.

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scamper 9 points 3 years ago

if other fedi projects are any indication, likely a unified API will develop. Mastodon's API is supported by most other fedi projects, so you can use mobile apps interchangeably. If Lemmy becomes dominant then kbin would have to implement an API to match.

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Wiiplay123 3 points 3 years ago

If kbin gets an API, maybe apps like rif is fun can be ported to it!

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artillect 4 points 3 years ago

kbin has an API (docs here), but it isn't working right now

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dismalnow 9 points 3 years ago path: 0 413425 421909, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
EE 3 points 3 years ago

Reddit screwing over app devs also potentially means app devs free to use their skills for Lemmy/Kbin.

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Tigbitties 2 points 3 years ago

I don't mind it on the browser. It doesn't feel that different from RiF when you play with the settings. I could use an infinite scroll.

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minnieo 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 413425 427997, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Same here.

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Mintyytea 1 point 3 years ago

I try to give time and patience to kbin because it’s actually only a month old xD I think it’s this guy called ernesto and some of his friends that are developing for it. They have to fix a lot of things on the site because it’s still in a prototype mode. They work very fast though but yeah I think they’re going as fast as humanly possible right now. I’m glad there is an app being made already right now for both lemmy and kbin.

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Piramic 1 point 3 years ago

Supposedly Sync is coming

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theinspectorst 0 points 3 years ago

I'm looking forward to a proper app with more functionality, but for now the progressive web app does work fine and I have it on my home screen on my phone in the place where Baconreader used to sit (and open it multiple times each day).

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MyMulligan 23 points 3 years ago

Users of Kbin and Lemmy should continually search for communities and magazines that will interest them and interact. There's places appearing all of the time. What you didn't find yesterday might be there today.

Most of the time I have Jerboa set to look for new posts within all instances. I'm surprised at what's out there after only four days. Sadly many don't have any comments after several hours, even days. Up votes are one thing but if someone took the time to post, written feedback is what will inspire someone to make more posts. Yes. I only comment when it's warranted but even a simple compliment can encourage more posts and discussion.

I've seen a bot running on an instance that's finding some of the best from reddit and posting. It identifies itself as a bot and links to the original content. It gives a url to the reddit post and when it was posted. This is something I can appreciate. I hope it can generate some discussion.

Now, more than ever, sorting by new and commenting on what interests you will help.

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phloatingman 6 points 3 years ago

Sometimes a post will say 0 comments, but if you click the rainbow fedilink, it'll take you to the post's original instance and there will be more comments.

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fl4shback 2 points 3 years ago

On kbin it's in "more> copy url to fediverse" but it's only copying the URL, you have to open a new tab and paste it.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities works really great to discover new communities/magazines.

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vkeycaps 1 point 3 years ago

That's actually helpful, thanks

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lixus98 3 points 3 years ago

The bot you are talking about is archiving many posts from reddit, I have one running too, but mine is intended for mods that need to mirror content from their subreddit (only external links, like news) to a magazine or community.
Here's the link if someone needs it: https://github.com/daniel-lxs/BotIt

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ChanchoManco 16 points 3 years ago

That's what I been thinking, I know the Reddit drama is interesting but this platform won't last unless we forget about it and focus on creating content and engage with it.

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Hyperreality 10 points 3 years ago

Reddit right now is like a car crash. It's hard to look away. However, there's a very good reason not to engage, the debate on reddit has become more artificial than most realise.

Reddit's inflated numbers by using bots and fake accounts since day 1. A quick google will result in articles where they admit as much. We all know reddit's had increasing amounts of bots, posting content and increasingly comments, but I don't think people realise how bad it's become.

It's not even that time that reddit's blog accidentally posted about Eglin Air Force base being one of the most reddit addicted cities. I think everyone knows (foreign) governments engage in influence operations online, and that this includes reddit. Even if it's just on an intellectual level, without truly realising that they've been semi-regularly interacting with bots while arguing on reddit. I also don't think anyone's naive enough to think that plenty of political content isn't artificially upvoted or promoted. Same thing goes for product placement.

But the recent shit storm just illustrates reddit the company is part of the problem. Recently, I've seen twenty different accounts post the same comment about not needing third party apps, and dusting off their laptop. I've attempted to compare the current situation to the previous blackout. You know, when reddit hired someone who defended paedophiles as an admin. Deleted comment. Try an alt. Deleted comment. Posted in subs without karma requirements in a fresh account. Auto-deleted.

When you're visiting reddit, you're no longer even watching a car crash. It's a simulacrum. An imitation of what's actually happening.

And it's been like this for a while. I've seen naive redditers engaging with bot comments under bot promoted content, posted by bots on more than one occassion.

Reddit has become worse than a hentai date simulator. I don't think anyone who plays those is particularly proud of it. But what to think of the lonely people who engage in reddit discussions with bots, and think they've had a genuine social interaction?

It's all very dystopian and sad.

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sanctuary_sanctuary 7 points 3 years ago

I have noticed how many of the "I didn't know there were 3rd party apps" and "who cares" comments seem to phrase things very similarly and have wondered how many are being posted by bots. RIP Reddit, we'll remember what you used to be.

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MyMulligan 1 point 3 years ago

Bots and paid actors are all over social media. It didn't strike me until I noticed how professional the photography was for a majority of posts. EDC, and Wicked Edge had some well designed still photos. Others too. And they all had links for buying the products.

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tjp 14 points 3 years ago

Yes. Great thoughts.

I saw a comment on a reddit thread recently about the migrations, changes, etc saying (paraphrasing) "Remember how we used to see stuff on reddit and then a week later on other platforms? This place is about to become just another week-behind platform."

Spez has been pointing out (and clearly justifying to himself) that only a small minority of users are upset with their changes, but that ignores that it's the mods and content generators - the power users - who make up that small minority. Reddit is about to suck by losing the only thing that made it great. Yes, it's the content.

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Syo 12 points 3 years ago
  1. Reddit is the default and some of us have gotten used to lurking, since it was always big enough that someone else did the voting and top comments. I look at fediverse as an opportunity for change, and in return asking I become an active community member again. Post the latest you see, comment, explain, etc . At least up vote is the content is good.

  2. As long as you are the mod of your /m/, you can make it clear that direct copy of Reddit is acceptable for your /m/. You're reposting the link in fediverse, with the intention to initiate conservation here because of better moderation. That sounds fine to me. Even the mod can lead by cross posting from Reddit. Yes, It's the content. Yes, Reddit is the biggest content source (for now). Don't shy away from leveraging it.

  3. Consider who we are and who you want to be. The assumption that power users, tech savvy folks moved over to fediverse more openly. I think that is true. Think if you want to start being the "first" of the Internet. That's how digg was, that's how Reddit grew, even 4chan made a name being the place for the hottest trash takes and going viral once in a while. So post here, and then cross post into Reddit. If they want to be the adult company a layer higher, then so be it.

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MushuChupacabra 12 points 3 years ago

This is the essence of it. Upload content and engage. Comment and upvote at the very least.

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Hyperreality 4 points 3 years ago

This is disgraceful!

How dare you use a bot to steal the content bots on reddit stole from insta/tiktok/twitter!

LOL

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inkican 2 points 3 years ago

Upvoted! :D

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scabrous-leper 9 points 3 years ago

@inkican Agreed. If we post it they will come...The good/bad thing is that we few have a responsibility to start the avalanche of posts...So I've been super-active on my lemmy instance, and here to an extent, toward that expicit end.

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YolkBrushWork402 9 points 3 years ago

Very true, I've been talking to people and getting them to upload content, I've also been trying my best to upload content, comment a bunch of times and upvote alot of people. It ain't much but it's a honest work

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trent 8 points 3 years ago

what about cross-posting content from Lemmy/kbin to Reddit? Showing that, not only in theory, but in practice, you can switch?

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nicetriangle 7 points 3 years ago
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HariSeldon_official 7 points 3 years ago

You're right.

I joined Lemmy two weeks ago, yet, I still spend most of my "Social network time" on Reddit. And the reason is that Reddit has more things to see, more interesting posts to interact with and so on.

I think that we that are already here should "prepare the place" so that others may come. And preparing the place means exactly creating posts and commenting. As simple as that.

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keanu0396 17 points 3 years ago

I'm going cold turkey on Reddit for exactly this reason. I realised that if I allowed myself to use Reddit if I couldn't find the content I want elsewhere, then I'll never actually leave it.

Instead I'm trying to now use Lemmy to find the communities that I'm interested it, and to make the content that I'd like to see.

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nostalgicgamerz 10 points 3 years ago

This. I quit cold Turkey when I saw that spez wants to make Reddit like twitter and he likes Elon Musk. Nope. Fuck that I’m out

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inkican 8 points 3 years ago

Smart. What's interesting about it is that the redditors who have left are pretty salty, so I've been accused of being a content farmer for posting content to m/todayIlearned. I was like, dude, there's no karma for posting links. I'm just doing this to be kind, no karma involved. People have a lot of PTSD from the culture of reddit.

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demvoter 11 points 3 years ago

I say keep posting. This is the way.

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keanu0396 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, hopefully as people become more familiar with the ethos here, incidents like that will decline!

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phloatingman 4 points 3 years ago

Some people are blocking reddit.com at the DNS level to help kick their addiction

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HollandJim 1 point 3 years ago

Post in both places, for now, but always post and view here first.

After a while, Reddit will only run behind.

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Kichae 4 points 3 years ago

And preparing the place means exactly creating posts and commenting. As simple as that.

It also means subscribing to remote groups so that they federate and populate in advance of more people arriving.

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nicetriangle 6 points 3 years ago
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NoIWontPickaName 11 points 3 years ago

They're already accusing us of being thieves for not using their shitty app, might as well live up to it.

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nicetriangle 5 points 3 years ago
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minnieo 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 413695 428047, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
reflex 2 points 3 years ago
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Flax_vert 0 points 3 years ago

Wouldn't you need an API for that

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nicetriangle 2 points 3 years ago
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taigaman 1 point 3 years ago

Yes, but I think you could keep it cheap/free because you're just polling for top posts once an hour/day/whatever, and not trying to rip every comment from every thread. The free tier API (100 calls/min) would pretty easily cover this per magazine.

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pory 1 point 3 years ago

If you're snagging the links and original posts (not the comments and upvotes/downvotes) from a Reddit page, every subreddit has an RSS feed for that. Scrapers are an option for when/if Reddit kills RSS, but that's not currently something they're doing.

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Hyperreality 2 points 3 years ago

TLDR:

PORN

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derf82 1 point 3 years ago

Don't even give Reddit the traffic. Find the content on a libreddit instance.

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DryToast 1 point 3 years ago
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noodlejetski 11 points 3 years ago

they're both parts of the Fediverse and are both link aggregators. similar to how, as a Lemmy user, you can subscribe to a community from a Lemmy instance ("server") different that you're on, you can subscribe to kbin communities the same way. I'm posting this comment from my kbin account.

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Kichae 7 points 3 years ago

kbin isn't a lemmy instance. It's server software for running a Reddit-like website, just like lemmy is. There are kbin instances -- that is, website running kbin -- just like there are lemmy instances (i.e. websites running lemmy).

Lemmy- and kbin-based websites can share content.

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jclinares 4 points 3 years ago

Think of it as the people in Lemmy being Outlook users, and the people on Kbin being Gmail users. They're just different flavors of the same thing (Reddit-like link aggregators, in this case).

And, as you already know, as a user of one you can interact with the other, and vice versa.

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Flax_vert 1 point 3 years ago

Even cooler is that mastodon users can interact with lemmy users sort of

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