Utah Makes Welfare So Hard to Get, Some Feel They Must Join the LDS Church to Get Aid

3 years ago by tintory to c/politics

Utah’s safety net for the poor is so intertwined with the LDS Church that individual bishops often decide who receives assistance. Some deny help unless a person goes to services or gets baptized.
Clent 116 points 3 years ago

Literally the point.

This is how Mormons operate. There is no give without at least guilt. They record tithings. They will use this against you. They think this is acceptable.

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LeChapeau 61 points 3 years ago
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GreenMario 43 points 3 years ago

Part of the plan.

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ivanafterall 38 points 3 years ago

The first option when you call Utah's unemployment hotline is, "Press 1 to Report Fraud." And I literally had Department of Workforce staff recommend Mormon-only resources, such as "The Bishop's Pantry" where they have the "good milk/bread, etc..."

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Uranium3006 36 points 3 years ago

Big church forced dependency as a mechanism of control . We must destroy these evil institutions

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jflorez 29 points 3 years ago

That is a feature not a bug

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AllNewTypeFace 21 points 3 years ago

The purpose of a system is what it does

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aesopjah 20 points 3 years ago

What an insanely evil looking building.. Just sayin

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justhach 14 points 3 years ago path: 0 2845193 2845450, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
duxbellorum 13 points 3 years ago

LDS is just wild and they are growing so fast.

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meyotch 30 points 3 years ago

Doubt those numbers with all your might mind and strength. That is a PR spin from the church. Their census cannot be trusted or independently verified. They are losing the younger generation big time.

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FordBeeblebrox 22 points 3 years ago

Thanks for reminding me I still need to make them take my name off the records. Haven’t set foot in one of their buildings in 15 years and there’s probably a lot of younger folks like me

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hashferret 21 points 3 years ago

Their grip of control extends far further than it seems. I need to be taken off the records as well but know it will trigger some sort of notification mechanism and create drama with family. Even when I feel like I'm out from under their thumb there's emotional blackmail that members are willing to smile and shrug off.

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meyotch 2 points 3 years ago

That is my own exact reason for remaining on the roster. I am multi-generational Mormon and the whisper network still operates very well. Thankfully I do not live behind the Zion Curtain anymore.

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Yearly1845 11 points 3 years ago
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Uranium3006 20 points 3 years ago

Indeed they have a membership retention crisis especially among young men. They've had to merge congregations together and are definitely lying. In order to get yourself off the membership roles and stop getting hounded by the Mormon Church's IRS you literally have to get a lawyer to file paperwork on your behalf. Yes it's really that bad the website is called to quitmormon.com I believe

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onionbaggage 4 points 3 years ago

My wife is still counted as a member and hasn't had anything to do with them in 15 years.

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nkiruanaya 2 points 3 years ago

That probably isn't true where I live (not in Utah). Here, there is an LDS church seemingly on every street corner. It's crazy. See a church, go 1 mile south and see another, go 1 mile east, see another, etc. It's really spooky because more often than not, an LDS church is right next to a very wealthy neighborhood.

How can they afford so many buildings and property? Is it a front for money laundering or something?

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Uranium3006 2 points 3 years ago

Yes but because it's religion it's legal for them to break the law

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meyotch 1 point 3 years ago

Yes.

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onionbaggage 9 points 3 years ago

Working as intended.

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