tuff_wizard 73 points a year ago

I do find it interesting that thousands of discrete devices is somehow easier than them virtualising them devices.

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Album 46 points a year ago

Virtualization is easily detected.

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tuff_wizard 39 points a year ago

Yeah but why would facebook/x bother to check? Engagement is engagement. They already know there are millions of bots and don’t care.

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Tanoh 37 points a year ago

My guess: it is a low hanging fruit and then they can say "Look! We blocked X million bots! So you can trust the users that are left...... please don't look into it any more"

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pupbiru 17 points a year ago

because people used to do this all the time with ads: serve up an ad click, get paid… so spin up a bunch of clients and have them click ads on your site, easy money!

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dreadbeef 10 points a year ago

shareholders want real users, not bots. Facebook has to tell shareholders that real eyeballs are looking at ads, not virtual ones. Facebook is an adtech company—all tech they develop further establishes their advertisement empire, if advertisers (or more specifically, investors) find out ads on facebook aren't worth their value, then facebook dies.

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tuff_wizard 6 points a year ago

Absolutely but so does reddit, they all make a great effort to not notice bot accounts.

It would be easy to identity many bots by their browsing habits and other digital markers but they obfuscate all data that may give an indication of real users because, as you say, any drop in reported users is a drop in ad value.

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krox 6 points a year ago

Pretty sure they only care because they could get in trouble for shareholder faud

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tuff_wizard 4 points a year ago

No that’s why they never release any data about bots. That way they can pretend every account is a real user.

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uncouple9831 2 points a year ago

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Petter1 1 point 10 months ago

And, i assume, those devices have each different WAN addresses

It would be to obvious, if all of them would have the same..

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zurohki 39 points a year ago

Probably it's cheaper to get 60 used low-end devices than one device that can run 60 copies of the Facebook app.

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fartographer 32 points a year ago

Bingo. People treat phones like they're disposable, and buying pallets of old functional phones is shockingly affordable

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squaresinger 9 points a year ago

People trade their old phones in when they buy new ones or donate them to random causes.

This here is where those old phones end up.

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robocall 37 points a year ago

Forgive my ignorance, why is there a wall of cellphones?

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prettybunnys 73 points a year ago

This is what a bot farm looks like

aka this is who you’re arguing with online.

This is what a lot of Lemmy traffic comes from.

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Dialectical_Specialist 37 points a year ago

-This comment brought to you by a bot™

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prettybunnys 25 points a year ago

beep boop

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tomiant 5 points a year ago

Giving helpful instructions is not among the activities bot farms are involved with.

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TheOctonaut 24 points a year ago

There's more phones on that rack than active Lemmy accounts

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prettybunnys 6 points a year ago

This is the .ml server

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jordanlund 6 points a year ago

I prefer the Superman version:

https://youtu.be/P7Ceon2WLpA

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Naich 5 points a year ago

How is it used? Are they remotely controlled by computer somehow or do they need someone going from phone to phone, putting stuff in manually?

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freebee 9 points a year ago

Low wage employees go over the boards of phones all day

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tomiant 1 point a year ago

Things phones and humans have in common in Asia: they're very cheap to procure.

It is sad, and heartbreaking, and true.

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explodicle 3 points a year ago

How much is a lot in this context?

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prettybunnys 2 points a year ago

Stick around long enough and pay attention and you’ll see.

Things relating to: Israel, Gaza, discussions of capitalism, “east” vs “west”, USA imperialism, the Uyghur Genocide, the genocide of the Palestinian people, the cultural revolution, great leap, Soviets, etc

^ suddenly there are a lot more people on Lemmy when these topics come up. Voting is transparent.

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explodicle 2 points a year ago

I wish we could locally delete votes from specific instances with our clients.

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Petter1 1 point 10 months ago

Do you really believe, that lemmy is big enough for them to care?

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JensSpahnpasta 34 points a year ago

You're looking at 7x14 cellphones per rack and at least 5 racks. So 490 phones. Each of them will have Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Reddit and so on installed. A setup like that will give you the power to immediately downvote a Reddit post 500 times or to sell 500 followers on Instagram, boost a TikTok video with 500 views or post 500 comments to YouTube. You can play your YouTube video 500 times and earn money by doing that. Or you could totally kill every Lemmy post critizising the communist party of China by downvoting it 500x and posting 500 negative comments.

And yes, there are thousands of those operations around

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KeenFlame 29 points a year ago

It's sadly very wrong.

The person selling the hat is also making fun and laughing at you. And has your personal information

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Bronzebeard 22 points a year ago

That's not wrong. Just incomplete

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Vespair 24 points a year ago

A watermark and a social media user, gross.

Back in my day we had standards and people were expected to crop out all that bullshit before posting a meme.

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pupbiru 14 points a year ago

and not just any social media: threads

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ameancow 12 points a year ago

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explodicle 6 points a year ago

The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. Reach them in the workplace, at home, in actual reality.

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ameancow 5 points a year ago

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Vespair 3 points a year ago

I agree with this. I'll even say fine follow the ugly conventions in those spaces and use watermarks to push people to leftist channels on those platforms.

That said, we are deep in the trenches here in this Lemmy community, not in the friendly outreach programs, so when dropping your meme here specifically, crop that bullshit out.

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tomiant 2 points a year ago

You should watch the film "Threads" from 1981 I think.

Everyone should watch "Threads", the film from 1981 I think.

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butwhyishischinabook 13 points a year ago

Oh man, good thing they changed colors and bolded part of it. I would have been totally lost.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 7 points a year ago

Can I get a useless red circle? Totally lost over here.

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tomiant 2 points a year ago

No arrows? Downvote.

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tomiant 3 points a year ago

Man I should build a pyramid.

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UltraGiGaGigantic -19 points a year ago

I bet OP believes that being the 2nd worst political party in the nation makes the democrats the good guys.

Electoral Reform Videos

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

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FatVegan 14 points a year ago

They're both bad so why not vote for the pedo fascist

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tomiant 8 points a year ago

This is what I fucking hate about these dumb cunts. They're all like "BOF PARTYS DUH SEYM!", and they vote for the objectively worse alternative every single time.

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tomiant 8 points a year ago

One guy is a middle aged state clerk doing what he can.

The other guy is a serial repeat offender rapist burglar violent pedophile that shits in your mouth and tells you to like it or gonna shoot you.

And without fail you vote for the rapist burglar violent pedophile every single time. "Both parties" my cunt, you're just a fascist bootlicker and for some reason you can't even admit it or stand for your beliefs, you are so pathetic you try to excuse the vomit that infests your soul by blaming others for not being as big of a degenerate as you are.

Just get fucked, we're done playing that game.

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explodicle 2 points a year ago

It's so fucking obvious that we only have one real choice, because of FPTP! Someone who's doing what he can should voice any opposition whatsoever to this blindingly obvious problem.

Any degenerate who pretends to not know what FPTP forces us to do is clearly in favor of its fascist result.

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