The game "Horses" now barred on Steam, Epic and Humble Bundle

7 months ago by alehel to c/games

Horses is proving to be something of a surprise hit, at least on the storefronts where you can still buy it.

Currently, only GOG and Itch are still selling this game.

EDIT: It seems the game has returned to Humble Bundle.

Kraiden 54 points 7 months ago

content that appears, in our judgment, to depict sexual conduct involving a minor

I'm assuming they don't mean a suggestive camera pan, but actually something problematic on screen, in which case, I totally support the ban. Devs were given the opportunity to change it, and they said no. Ban away imho. The fact that this is considered controversial is pretty disturbing to me.

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markz 97 points 7 months ago

It was a child doing pony play, riding a naked adult man-horse. The dev claimed it was not sexual.

This was removed later but it's the build you send for review that gets reviewed. Other stores got a later version, hence why it passed on those.

Dev was not given a chance to remove it as it turns out steam has a policy that anything that resembles CSAM gets denied permanently.

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cronenthal 19 points 7 months ago

I haven't heard about the details, what's your source on that?

As far as I recall, the developer said he didn't know the actual reason for the ban.

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dukemirage 8 points 7 months ago

What’s CSAM?

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CileTheSane 2 points 7 months ago

Considering there website proudly shows it is banned on Steam I'm sure this was done on purpose for the publicity.

Why did Epic ban it though? They didn't get the 'tainted' preview version and normally love to have games that aren't on Steam.

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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 1 point 7 months ago

Does being naked make something sexual? I would argue that for content to be sexual it has to have intent to cause arousal.

The fact that it vaguely resembles fetish content does not in and of it's self make it fetish content.

The trailers i have seen for this game do not seem to intend to cause arousal, they seem to want to make the player empathize with the plight of domesticated animals

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REDACTED 21 points 7 months ago

I'm almost thru the game and I did not notice any sexual conducts with minors

EDIT: Btw. Something that I thought was only done for screenshots, but the nudity in-game is censored/pixelated.

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Kraiden 5 points 7 months ago

Yep, I've since read some other articles and it seems there's more to this specific case

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Deestan 3 points 7 months ago

The devs were not told what needed to change even after asking, so they tried to remove anything that they suspected could be taken the wrong way, asked for reconsideration or clarification, but receive no response.

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KaChilde 29 points 7 months ago

This is false.

https://www.eurogamer.net/...

They submitted to steam, who asked for a preliminary build of the game (one would assume due to concerns about the content). The build provided included a small child reading a naked man like a horse.

Steam denied the game based on the inclusion of CSAM, and advised the devs directly of this decision in what the devs call “an automated email”, as if steam is out there personally hand writing rejection letters for every failed game out there.

The devs claim to have changed the scene, but it seems that Steam has a zero-tolerance policy on games that feature CSAM. And, I mean, Fair.

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Arcane2077 -25 points 7 months ago

Forming an opinion from your made up justification is a sign of poor judgement

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Kraiden 25 points 7 months ago

It's a direct quote from the article you're commenting on, and that my opinion is based on.

But please, don't let me stop you from attacking my character instead of my argument

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