What will happen to Brave browser after the manifest change?

3 years ago by darkstar to c/asklemmy

I've read some things online about it all but I'm not a total IT boff. Is it really true that Brave browser won't be able to block ads once the changes are made next year?

Ps. I use Firefox with uBlock but my SO and most of my clients absolutely love Brave

carnha 38 points 3 years ago

Brave tweeted this last year:

Manifest V3 will not prevent Brave from blocking ads. We built ad blocking into the browser itself so it will not be affected by Google changing its rules for extensions.

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aragon 9 points 3 years ago

It is best to move to Firefox because fundamentally the chromium project thrives because of Google ,an Ad company. It is not worth using chromium derivatives.

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SavvyWolf 8 points 3 years ago

Out of interest, since Chromium is open source, is there anything stopping Opera, Edge, Brave, etc. just mantaining support for the old manifest? Like, I'm not sure why this is such a big deal for anything other than Chrome and Chromium.

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jackoneill 3 points 3 years ago

I mean, I don’t know shit about this so I could be totally wrong here but it seems like if they did that they have to make their own fork and then patch and maintain it on their own moving forward. Doable but a lot of effort

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heartlessevil 1 point 3 years ago

Because nearly 90% of users use Chrome or a derivative thereof. People can make a V3 version for Chrome and a V2 version for other browsers, but the APIs are nowhere near compatible, so it's a lot of extra work. If you just make a V3 version, it will work on any updated browser.

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Vlyn -1 points 3 years ago

When you do that you'd have to port every single security patch and new feature manually into your fork. And it gets even worse: Because you deviate from the original implementation you continue to use outdated code that nobody is patching at all.

So you can absolutely do that, but in a year you'll have your own browser with tons of security issues and no manpower to find and fix them.

Basically you'd be using an old browser version.

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CookieJarObserver 5 points 3 years ago

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godless 4 points 3 years ago

Fennec is even better than Firefox, it's the same source but recompiled to allow all add-ons in the main app. So basically a stable Firefox nightly, if you wish.

It's maintained by the folks behind the f-droid app store themselves, so arguably a highly trusted source.

Sync to Firefox desktop fully implemented and working.

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burgersc12 2 points 3 years ago

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godless 3 points 3 years ago

Oh nice, I'll check that out as well. What would you call the core differences?

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burgersc12 1 point 3 years ago

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Seytoux 1 point 3 years ago

True concern from a person that just got rid of chrome (finally) and switched to brave, how is it garbage? o_o

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heartlessevil 4 points 3 years ago

One thing that rings alarm bells for me is that they have a built-in adblocker, but you can enable Brave's ads instead and get a cryptocurrency reward. Brave takes 30% cut on the ads they show this way, so they are essentially replacing the website's monetization with their own monetization. Kind of scummy, and it being a cryptocurrency also looks grifty.

https://brave.com/brave-rewards/ (See "what % of ad revenue"...)

Secondly, the founder has really awful politics, but I will leave that to the reader.

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darkstar 1 point 3 years ago

Can you provide reasons for your claim? I'm curious to know what makes Brave garbage

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CookieJarObserver 3 points 3 years ago

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