The length of this traffic jam.

3 years ago by lynny to c/mildlyinfuriating

aLoggerNamedRay 69 points 3 years ago

My brother in Christ you are the traffic

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bionicjoey 32 points 3 years ago

I'm sure one more lane will fix it.

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scottyjoe9 13 points 3 years ago

Speaking of which, is there a r/fuckcars equivalent over here?

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ghariksforge 10 points 3 years ago path: 0 425883 428996 432864 432913, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 4
barsoap 3 points 3 years ago

Also /c/citylife@beehaw.org. In a sense. Somehow they had the bright idea to also invite car fans. That's not going to cause any issues at all, no it certainly won't.

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bionicjoey 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 425883 428996 432864 437881, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
TheFriendlyDickhead 3 points 3 years ago

I acctually just joined that before seeing this post

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WhatsHerBucket 5 points 3 years ago

They’ll just block the other lane while they do it lol

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dustojnikhummer 49 points 3 years ago

Trust me bro, just one more lane

because trains are too expensive or something

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baseless_discourse 17 points 3 years ago

"AMErIcA iS TOo bIg!"

"HaRDwoRkINg AmERIcANs!"

"ThE goVeRNmENt!"

Random nonsense copium bullshit go!

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dustojnikhummer 2 points 3 years ago

Meanwhile who is building interstates? Meanwhile the i95 bridge will be open in just a few weeks...

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Mirshe 4 points 3 years ago

Trains are ANTIQUATED, bro. Cars are the future, you can't be a rugged individual on a TRAIN.

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dustojnikhummer 7 points 3 years ago

you dropped this "/s"

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beaubbe 36 points 3 years ago

What is crazy is that with 1 passenger per car, that is not that many people. Like not even 50. You could all fit in a single bus

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Airazz 10 points 3 years ago

Or motorcycles/bicycles, if you really want personal mode of transport.

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greo -1 points 3 years ago

Please no motorcycles they are annoying and loud as fuck

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scutiger 6 points 3 years ago

They don't have to be

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overzeetop 2 points 3 years ago

And yet they always are. Not to mention dangerous (statistically, per user-mile).

Also, please don't argue with me on that last point. Instead, argue how safe they are with a doctor or nurse at your local emergency room. They will, I'm certain, agree with you.

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MrMonkey 5 points 3 years ago

If those 50 people are all going to same places than the bus goes. At the same time.

A coworker was taking the bus to get home. 2 hours due to two line changes where they can wait up to 30 minutes for the next bus. I started giving him a ride home when I could.

5 minutes out of my way and cut his commute down to 20 minutes. From 2 hours. That's 120 minutes down to 20 minutes. With just that extra hour of sleep he's much happier.

An extra hour and a half of each day wasted on public transportation.

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lynny 7 points 3 years ago

In most countries with public transport you only have to wait 10-15 minutes for the next bus on that line.

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Gecko 1 point 3 years ago

10-15 minutes? For me it's like 5-8 :>

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gundog48 5 points 3 years ago

Public transport is great in cities, but as soon as things get more sparsely populated, you get diminishing returns. Everything takes longer, runs infrequently, and still barely gets you close.

But then if they run more frequently, they'd be empty.

Yet, where I live, they keep introducing hostile rules, new houses can only have one parking space, at a time where kids are having to live with their parents for longer, so their mobility, job opportunities, etc are really hampered. It would be one thing if there was decent public transport infrastructure, but there's literally nothing, just people becoming 'stuck' because those who make the rules often don't think about areas as a whole.

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ghariksforge 6 points 3 years ago

Most people live in cities. The fraction of rural population is small and getting less.

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ThePantser 2 points 3 years ago

Not as true as it used to be. Many companies are still allowing working from home. The rural areas around me have seen a huge influx of new construction since you can live anywhere and work for many jobs. Both myself and wife work from home and have considered moving out of the city but won't until the kids are done with school.

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baseless_discourse 2 points 3 years ago

30 mins is pretty jarring even for U.S. standard. Especially during commute time.

In other countries I have been to most buses take at most 15 mins to come. Trains typically take around 5 mins, and much more frequent during rush hour (around 2 to 1 mins per train).

Another problem with U.S. transportation system is the poor investment on train (somehow people are into those "Hyperloop" when a normal subway system has been demonstrated time and time again to already be way more efficient than car). For buses, its speed is limited by traffic, so it is unlikely for bus to be faster than cars.

Another thing I would like to point out is that time is not "wasted" on transport, you can read, browse social media, news, watch videos, things you cannot do in a car. And you can enjoy music with a much better sound system (aka head phones), which is not safe in a car.

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Izzent 35 points 3 years ago path: 0 440569, hotness: undefined, score: 35, children: 22
ThePantser -10 points 3 years ago

Traffic jams would be a whole lot less damaging if they were all electric. Just sitting there with the AC and radio on is a whole lot less emissions compared to fossil fuels.

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Izzent 43 points 3 years ago

I prefer a rock solid public transport system, and plenty of safe walking areas and no-car zones. EVs help minimally in the grand scheme, since they are costly to produce, especially the batteries.

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hydro033 6 points 3 years ago

Yea, that only works for cities. America will still need tons of cars for everywhere that isn't a city. It's a very low density country, all things considered.

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CaptainMinnette 2 points 3 years ago

There's large swathes of territory nearly as dense as parts of Europe with incredible public transit. Look at the density of Spain and overlay it on top of the northeast US, then compare the public transit.

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mack7400 5 points 3 years ago

But then you lose your fReEdOm, and are beholden to another driver's whims! Creep to the left or right side of the lane in your traffic jam? Forget it! All you can do is read, or play a game, or gaze forlornly at the liberated masterminds as you zip past in your socialist train!

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Thurkeau 3 points 3 years ago

Good luck with that, though. If this is America, and I think it is, we find ways of making a good public transit system suck. I also think we need to take a hard look at how our towns and cities are desined as well, and make them to where they're optimized to be able to drive into a central location then bicycle or hoof it to whrever you wanted to go within a couple miles.

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ThePantser 0 points 3 years ago

Which won't happen especially in car first cities. I am in Michigan, it's the home of the automobile and everything is built around it. To accommodate a good mass transit they would need to demolish large portions of the cities to install rail lines because busses are a lack luster bandage. Even with cities with great bus lines like Lansing or Ann Arbor it still can take hours for a trip across the city when a car gets you there and back in minutes. Business will also need to accommodate and give longer time off for doctors appointments. My wife rides the bus often in Lansing and if she has a appointment that is only a 10min car ride she is gone for 3 hours on the bus.

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Smokeless7048 6 points 3 years ago

To accommodate a good mass transit they would need to demolish large portions of the cities to install rail lines because busses are a lack luster bandage.

I mean, we did that for cars, and it only made things worse

example BEFORE and AFTER

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stylishboar 3 points 3 years ago

To accommodate a good mass transit they would need to demolish large portions of the cities to install rail lines

I don't think this is true, at least not initially. There are cheaper alternatives, such as BRTs (dedicated bus lanes) and updating zoning to encourage destinations to develop closer. Sure, the US is obviously mostly car-centric today, but the cynical all-or-nothing mindset is hindering cities' ability to even begin to make progress.

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seedbrage 9 points 3 years ago

That's true, but electric cars won't fix the core issue of car dependency and massive traffic jams

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possiblylinux127 6 points 3 years ago

The two issues I have with current EVs is you can't work on them and they don't last as long as gas vehicles.

I have a old suburu and it still runs fine

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Smokeless7048 8 points 3 years ago

Its also worth remembering there is a lot less maintenance to do on an EV. No oil to change, lubes to replace, belts that break...

Besides the batteries, an EV car should last longer than a gas car.

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possiblylinux127 3 points 3 years ago

It doesn't though. Electric cars full of DRM

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Negromungusschlong -1 points 3 years ago

They have the same components except the engine, but they weigh more and the batteries dont last as long as a well maintained engine. EV cars should not last as long.

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ghariksforge 28 points 3 years ago

This is why I love trains

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Iron_Lynx 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 432900 439088, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
Thurkeau 1 point 3 years ago

I could totally go for a rail transport system that's actually good. The laws and ordinances are there if they would just enforce them.

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klieg2323 22 points 3 years ago

I find it more infuriating that there is usually no other option than traffic. If only there was a long distance mode of transit that wasn't prone to frequent traffic and collision

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lynny 22 points 3 years ago

Just wait until you realize there used to be a train to every town, including every single small town.

We had the passenger train networks, it was what built the country, but now it is gone.

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krackalot 3 points 3 years ago

It's still there. The track network at least. Hasn't been updated either.

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dustojnikhummer 6 points 3 years ago

Many crossings have been paved over

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overzeetop 4 points 3 years ago

If only there was a long distance mode of transit that wasn’t prone to frequent traffic and collision

If you're in the US, even trains won't help. De/under-regulation means there are over a thousand collisions and/or rail failures every year. Even if passenger trains were given priority, the lax safety and maintenance standards allowed on freight lines would cause monumental delays.

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Saigonauticon 21 points 3 years ago

You may as well declare that your permanent address. It's where you live now. May as well try and find happiness where you are.

You'll meet friends there, settle in, maybe get married and have some kids, grow old and retire to the back seat, having lived a rich and full life.

In a few generations, the fact that the cars can move will only be a children's story, and eventually forgotten altogether.

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PaxSapien 18 points 3 years ago path: 0 433125, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 3
dustojnikhummer -16 points 3 years ago

Fuck fuckcars

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Necronomicommunist 4 points 3 years ago

Fuck yeah! Fuckcars

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dustojnikhummer -2 points 3 years ago

No.

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cowmouse 16 points 3 years ago

Public transport for the win :D

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Thurkeau 3 points 3 years ago

At least until we find a way to f* it up--again.

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Tylith 16 points 3 years ago

One more lane would fix this!

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Zorque 11 points 3 years ago

Let's make it ten just to be safe.

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS 5 points 3 years ago

TXDOT would like to offer you a job as a traffic engineer!

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DoucheAsaurus 5 points 3 years ago

Nah lets just stagnate the minimum wage so nobody can afford a car.

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Drusas 1 point 3 years ago

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but research shows that adding an extra lane does not typically reduce this kind of traffic. It just makes it wider.

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Brunette6256 15 points 3 years ago

Plot twist: photographer is the first car inthee lane

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danc4498 14 points 3 years ago

Did you stop there and cause a traffic jam to get this beautiful picture?

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ThaijsClan 13 points 3 years ago

Been there before. We recently had a semi truck tip and spill thousands of frozen French fries across all lanes of the highway. They closed it completely down for hours. People were literally reversing on the highway to back up to the nearest exit. It was terrible

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS 2 points 3 years ago

See, as much as I hate Texas and especially TXDOT, I will give it props for it's access roads that run alongside the interstates. Stuff gets too backed up, folks can just drive over the grass to the access road. It'll back the access road up, too, but it'll be moving, at least. Hell, out in west Texas you can see where the locals have made their own exit because the nearest one is a 10+ mile drive out of the way.

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Lor 12 points 3 years ago

[Image description: A photo of a road with two lanes. There is bumper-to-bumper traffic reaching an approxime 53 car length.]

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aeternum 2 points 3 years ago

doin' the lord's work there, sonny jim

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WhatsHerBucket 8 points 3 years ago

Looks like my commute today, just with grass lol

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Dave_r 8 points 3 years ago

Amateurs

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ChampagneEquinox 8 points 3 years ago

I don’t know if this counts as β€œmildly” infuriating, I’d be freaking OUT with a traffic jam that long, especially if I had somewhere to be at a certain time!

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tchotchony 9 points 3 years ago

Wait, this is long? This looks like regular traffic to me...

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS 4 points 3 years ago

Not from any large city in America, are you?

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Ronno 5 points 3 years ago

Any large city period.
Seriously, I live in The Netherlands which is the size of a post stamp, even we cannot make public transport work (especially outside of the larger cities), thus we also have to deal with traffic jams. All the comments of the "Fuck Cars" community are quite ignorant on the issue that public transport can only work efficiently in cities, not to connect rural areas to those cities.

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Jenga 8 points 3 years ago

Was it really necessary to stop and hold up traffic just for this picture though?

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Hive68 1 point 3 years ago
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overzeetop 7 points 3 years ago

This isn't mildly infuriating. Now, if you took a second shot of the traffic in front and there was nothing - just the echo of a brake check an hour earlier. That would be mildy infuriating.

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ThePantser -9 points 3 years ago

Which is why electric cars will reduce this kind of thing. When you are using a high regen that slows you down you are less likely to hit the breaks which won't trigger people behind you to break.

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overzeetop 6 points 3 years ago

Electric cars won' make a difference. Braking/accordioning is a human pilot failure. Self-Driving (autonomous) vehicles will reduce this because lidar doesn't get distracted by incoming text messages or road trance.

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Thurkeau 2 points 3 years ago

...until you go plowing into that guy who just whipped in front of you and locked 'em up. I bet he braked at well more than .3 g. Additonally, you'll likely get rear ended since your brake lights won't light. (Technology Connections discusses this in better detail.)

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eggnog 2 points 3 years ago

I love electric cars but let's work towards trams, buses, and trains. electric cars are the red herring of solutions for traffic, climate, etc...

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Sir_Kevin 6 points 3 years ago

This looks like a normal day in Tampa.

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isdfoa 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 433368, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
SCmSTR 5 points 3 years ago

Back in 2017 or whatever that North American solar eclipse was, I drove down to Bend Oregon to view it. After, there was bumper to bumper traffic almost the whole way north, back to Seattle, WA. There was literal bumper to bumper traffic from Bend, OR to Issaquah, WA. That was almost 350 miles and took basically an entire day. It was horrible having to pee on the side of the road in bumper to bumper traffic in the middle of nowhere. Protip? Don't try to drink the Gatorade just to have a pee bottle.

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mike94100 4 points 3 years ago

Shameless plug for @transit

Insane how anyone could see this and think its the best/only way people should travel.

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anthoniix 4 points 3 years ago

At that point you gotta hop out and walk 🀧

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jt_snow_is_life 3 points 3 years ago

Never been to a city before, huh?

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lynny 1 point 3 years ago

Cities tend to have public transport.

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Celox_nex 3 points 3 years ago

Man, got to love the ability to work from home and not have to deal with this on a daily basis.
There is so much time wasted being caught in stuff like this. One of those F Cars moments.

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Bender_B_Rodriguez 2 points 3 years ago

My last job when Covid hit I got to work from home. It was great but the job sucked and was soul sucking. I got back into my dream job and took up firefighting. I now only commute 8 times a month and it’s before rush hour. Love it!

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sycamore 3 points 3 years ago

That looks like normal holiday traffic. Is it?

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS 1 point 3 years ago

Looks like normal rush hour traffic in Austin, at least pre-pandemic. Haven't been there during rush hour since 2020.

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lynny 1 point 3 years ago

No, this was weeks ago.

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Kill_joy 2 points 3 years ago

Jealous if you live some place where this isnt the norm for you.

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Rooki 1 point 3 years ago

The classic Traffic jam.

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reflex 1 point 3 years ago
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b00m 3 points 3 years ago

no! that's just a hill, checkmate round earthers!!1

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hiyaaaaa23 1 point 3 years ago

average weekday afternoon

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Discoslugs 1 point 3 years ago

Houston

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MxM111 1 point 3 years ago

They all behind! Sukkers!

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