The latency is terrible, but the bandwidth isn't too bad.

3 years ago by jeff 👨‍đŸ’ģ to c/programmer_humor

metaStatic 38 points 3 years ago

never underestimate the bandwidth of a van full of hard drives

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jeff 33 points 3 years ago

We have 1 TB microSDs. A pigeon could probably carry at least 100. If I did my math right(which i probably didn't), if it takes 24 hours of travel that's still a 8Gb/s connection.

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okawari 16 points 3 years ago

Reminds me of AWS Snowmobile, which is literally a shipping container filled with harddrives.

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cptapathetic 4 points 3 years ago

There's also versions at smaller scales that Google and Amazon have. A lot of times even less than 10TB of data can be easier to physically ship than to upload since you may have to saturate your connection for while for that which isn't feasible for many especially businesses

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PAPPP 1 point 3 years ago

I'm somewhat surprised to learn that each Snowmobile unit is only about 100PB in a 45x8x9.6ft highwall shipping container

Gonna ballpark in stupid units to see how wrong my intuition that that's not very dense is:

Assuming dense but not hot new thing spinning rust, 16TB per 34.5 cubic inch standard 3.5" disc.

(100PB/16TB)*2 (assume at least two spindle redundant) is about 12,000 discs, so about 414,000 cubic inches of just discs without any of the supporting equipment.

A highwall shipping container is like 5,900,000 cubic inches, so only like 7% of that thing would be discs.

Or, accommodating a little bit of the support, let's say it's just full of those commodity 90-bay 4U storage servers. Those are 19" x 7" x 26.4" (3511.2 cubic inches) for 1440 raw TB each, again 2 spindle redundancy so you'd need about 140 of the things for 100PB, round up to 500,000 cubic inches of those... still less than 9%.

Yeah, unless I did my math radically wrong, that's surprisingly not very dense.

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okawari 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it really sounds a bit low. I'm not sure what else goes into these containers. I assume there might also be a bunch of portable equipment and cabling that goes into moving the data in and out of the container? Power infrastructure and cooling and what probably takes up quite a bit of space as well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyirISpUAAA__xV.jpg

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Kerb 1 point 3 years ago

Id assume rhey put in some standard racks on shock absorbers and more redundancy than usual,
And wired all that up to acentral input.

Its probably not build to minmax the capacity,
but to fit the largest usecases.

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vox 1 point 3 years ago

reminds me of factotrio's cars on belts...

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danc4498 22 points 3 years ago

My packets were intercepted by a cat

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BurningCat 18 points 3 years ago

How would that work when birds aren't even real??

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msage 13 points 3 years ago

Since they are government drones, they might as well ship USBs everywhere they go

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spartanatreyu 7 points 3 years ago

Bird's don't eat worms, they charge off secret buried worm-textured USB cables.

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bobs_monkey 6 points 3 years ago

That's why it's important to encrypt your data in coconuts before utilizing avian carriers

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JackbyDev 17 points 3 years ago

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a semi truck full of SD cards.

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regular_human 0 points 3 years ago

sneakernet

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mattd 16 points 3 years ago

Watching Netflix

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ICastFist 14 points 3 years ago

Man, these always fly right over my firewalls!

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askat 13 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately this protocol is vulnerable to FITM (Falcon-In-The-Middle) attacks.

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Ronno 10 points 3 years ago

Isn't this what Twitter is doing? /s

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thesanewriter 7 points 3 years ago

This is an example of internet speed meaning two very different things

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hare_ware 8 points 3 years ago

Latency vs Throughput!

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geissi 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 465732, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
T156 5 points 3 years ago

They do have a terrible MiTM vulnerability if you carry some birdseed (or a sandwich).

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CanadaPlus 4 points 3 years ago

The bandwidth is probably amazing. How many micro-SD cards could a pigeon safely carry?

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Mowcherie 1 point 3 years ago

We need to design little pigeon SD card backpacks.

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Proudmuslim 3 points 3 years ago

The ideal protocol

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TheBananaKing 3 points 3 years ago

"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tape"

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neurodancer 3 points 3 years ago

I'm just imagining a TCP connection with a million birds being sent just to ACK packets

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Crystalizts 3 points 3 years ago

"Bird internet"

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vollol 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 1433437, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
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