Gmail preparing to drop POP3 mail fetching

9 months ago by sabreW4K3 to c/tech

: It's January 2026, and Google is finding innovative new ways to make one of its services worse
Gsus4 24 points 9 months ago

They wake up every day and try to decide how to lose users. From killing things to enshittifying them.

path: 0 21385702, hotness: undefined, score: 24, children: 12
sabreW4K3 20 points 9 months ago

To be fair, they're only talking about being able to fetch other (third party) mail accounts via Gmail. No one in their right mind should be doing this anyway. And only via POP3, IMAP is still supported.

path: 0 21385702 21386508, hotness: undefined, score: 20, children: 9
eleijeep 10 points 9 months ago

No one in their right mind should be doing this anyway

Why not?

path: 0 21385702 21386508 21387756, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 8
sabreW4K3 5 points 9 months ago

Google are an advertisement company. Their business model is data mining. It should be an inconvenience for them to build a profile on you. Running your third party email via them is the opposite of that.

path: 0 21385702 21386508 21387756 21392250, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
a_non_monotonic_function 1 point 9 months ago

It sounds remarkably janky, and a bit of an unusual edge case. Why would someone need this specific pattern?

Eventually this is the sort of thing that isn't worth supporting.

path: 0 21385702 21386508 21387756 21391168, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 3
The_Decryptor 4 points 9 months ago

I used to do it back when gmail first started, I connected it to my previous email account so anything addressed to my old account would get transferred to my new one.

I could probably count the number of emails it ever retrieved on one hand.

path: 0 21385702 21386508 21387756 21391168 21393459, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 2
SpikesOtherDog 1 point 9 months ago

Not sure what op meant, but according to TFA, "POP3 requires sending passwords in plaintext."

path: 0 21385702 21386508 21387756 21393160, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 2
eleijeep 4 points 9 months ago

Yes just like HTTP, FTP, SMTP, telnet and all the other pre-TLS protocols that we now run over TLS for exactly this reason.

Google, just like every other modern mail client, supports connecting to POP3 servers over SSL:

WDLrB05Knrl5Z0M.png

path: 0 21385702 21386508 21387756 21393160 21394237, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 1
hitmyspot 7 points 9 months ago

I think they calculate what they can change that loses less users than it gains in advertising revenue. Just slowly turning the screws more and more.

path: 0 21385702 21386009, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
CookieOfFortune 5 points 9 months ago

It’s probably someone going for promo by removing this feature. Doubt it affects the bottom line much, just reduces complexity.

path: 0 21385702 21389510, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
fubarx 8 points 9 months ago

IIRC, POP3 downloaded all emails to local device. If you have more than one device, the first one gets it all and the second or more see nothing.

IMAP kept the messages on the server so there was one source of truth and multiple devices could access the same emails.

Most email clients support both. There are probably some people still running old POP3 clients, or they set it up one way and never bothered to change.

Not sure why gmail would care. Code's been working for decades. Unless there are security considerations not worth mitigating.

path: 0 21391515, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
flowers_galore2 4 points 9 months ago

Good, nothing of value is lost.

path: 0 21385561, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
ArsonButCute 0 points 9 months ago
path: 0 21392230, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 4
sabreW4K3 2 points 9 months ago

That's not what the article is about.

path: 0 21392230 21392481, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 2
ArsonButCute 2 points 9 months ago

That's why I deleted my comment. Foolishly I posted before reading.

path: 0 21392230 21392481 21398653, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
sabreW4K3 2 points 9 months ago

Happens to the best of us. πŸ€—

path: 0 21392230 21392481 21398653 21399087, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
artiman 1 point 9 months ago

nextcloud uses IMAP and SMTP, not POP3

path: 0 21392230 21395959, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
tech
tech

@programming.dev

login for more options
3457
172
200

A community for high quality news and discussion around technological advancements and changes

Things that fit:

  • New tech releases
  • Major tech changes
  • Major milestones for tech
  • Major tech news such as data breaches, discontinuation

Things that don't fit

  • Minor app updates
  • Government legislation
  • Company news
  • Opinion pieces

Community Wiki

go to feed...