I got paid minimum wage to solve an impossible problem

9 months ago by Occhioverde to c/programming

An experiment involving sweeping floors, simulated annealing, and why algorithms that optimize for the wrong thing ruin your life.
arthur 52 points 9 months ago

"technical correctness is worthless if you’re solving the wrong problem."

100% agreed

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Ephera 29 points 9 months ago path: 0 21467793, hotness: undefined, score: 29, children: 2
SchwertImStein 3 points 9 months ago

it doesn't matter. Also if it was Walmart would you also have suggested it?

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Ephera 8 points 9 months ago

My problem was that "Albert Heijn" is a dude's name. It does not exactly scream "we're talking about a real physical building".

For all I knew, the impossible problem we're solving could've been on a mathematical plane, named after mathematician Albert Heijn. "Sweeping" just as well can be used in an abstract sense.

Obviously, I did think of physically sweeping a physical floor first and foremost, but especially with the rest of the blog post being so entirely abstract, I had doubts on that for far too long, which did not make it easier to understand.

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eleijeep 18 points 9 months ago

wakka wakka wakka wakka

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lascapi 15 points 9 months ago

The article is nice and the finals observations are saddly so true :/ :(

Even LLMs (Large Language Models) like ChatGPT optimize for the wrong thing. They optimize for sounding confident. For sounding like they know the answer. Not for being right. Not for being honest.

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abcdqfr 14 points 9 months ago

Fun read, but odd title for someone punching well above their weight for literally no incentive other than the relish of the challenge. Minimum wage =/= maximum effort... What was the meme about the guy fabricating a set of scary cardboard monsters to cower near? Similar energy.

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sp3ctr4l 16 points 9 months ago

It makes much more sense if you read the last third or so of the post.

They convert their examples of algorithms optimizing for different or wrong things into direct social commentary on how social media algos optimize for rage, as this is more profitable than something that would optimize for... you know, improving society... many elements of modern tech driven society are optimizing for the wrong thing.

The entire set up of the post is 'i am a computer scientist and my job is i sweep floors in a grocery store'.

That entire setup is a society nonsensically 'optimizing' what it does with workers of various skill sets.

This person did this because they are immensely bored and underutilized, they are underemployed.

IE, the labor market / education system is very badly optimized.

A better optimized society would have them writing a post with them describing a more consequential, practically useful code adventure.

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phoenixz 6 points 9 months ago

More to the point:

Yes, many elements of modern tech driven society are the way they are optimized for rage, buts that is only because rage drives engagement and engagement makes a select few people very rich.

As long as we allow individuals to become insanely rich and or powerful, this. will. never. change.

It's not that hard, simple rules, ban billionaires. Set a hard cap on personal wealth and anything you earn over that goes 100% to taxes.

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SpaceNoodle 5 points 9 months ago

Fun read, great lesson.

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