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What laptops are made as much in Europe as possible?

9 months ago by birdwing to c/buyeuropean

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See title. I'm curious if there's one independent from the US, and if possible also from China.

Or well, at least as independent from Big US spy tech as possible. While Apple is nice, it's proprietary and I don't trust them in the long term.

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PCurd 12 points 9 months ago

Lots of laptops are actually made by Clevo - they are Taiwanese at least. ASUS and MSI are also Taiwanese.

Some manufacturers like CyberPowerPC are at least assembled in Europe - same with Chillblast. Likely a Clevo or Tongfang (Chinese) laptop underneath though.

Otherwise Nokia in Finland, Medion, SHIFT, Tuxedo, or Wortmann all from Germany spring to mind.

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tomiant 4 points 9 months ago

I will never forgive ASUS for the 2005-2008 restructuring. They used to make great computers. Then came the fucking MBAs and ruined the brand.

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RyanDownyJr 2 points 9 months ago

I'm too young to know what ASUS was like before my first computer I built in 2013. I will say that I have always had quality from them. I think one time I had something DOA and they replaced it with expedited shipping. I've always bought ASUS where I could and when I haven't I went elsewhere and got let down. MSI and Acer monitors broke within two years for instance.

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birdwing 1 point 9 months ago

I actually looked at the Nokia ones! But they don't sell it on their site, and say they're not the manufacturers nor retailers... However, another search explained to me that they use Windows. Yeah, no thanks.

Tuxedo seems interesting, but ugh, the chips are AMD or Intel, and those are both American... we really need European digital stuff makers. But other than that, they seem good, using Linux. As long as the Intel Management Engine can be disabled, I guess.

Medion seems to partner with Amazon, so no thanks.

SHIFT seems to have HP (American) and Lenovo (Chinese), so I'll rule that out.

Wortmann is involved with Microsoft, so also a no-go for me.

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