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SnoringEarthworm 142 points 9 months ago

I will always side against the multi-billion dollar corporation.

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alastel 119 points 9 months ago

Fuck the copyright mafia. All the fascist tech bros trained their enslopification brainrotting engines on anna's archive without anyone in power batting an eye but I guess burn everything because someone might want to listen to a song.

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mrsilkworm 78 points 9 months ago

If you don't own what you pay for, then pirating is not unethical. Period.

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guy 2 points 9 months ago

This makes Anna's archive a bit problematic with that logic since when you pay for a paper you get a PDF copy?

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Arcka 17 points 9 months ago

These companies maintain that even though you possess a PDF, you still do not own it and do not have the rights associated with ownership.

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guy 1 point 9 months ago

Well no, but in the same spirit of how you don't own a movie just because you bought the DVD? I mean there are few things you actually own after buying them

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Arcka 2 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure what you're buying, but I prioritize purchases of things I will actually own and therefore do own most of the things I buy.

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Cenotaph 11 points 9 months ago

I would consider it more problematic if the author of the paper got any of that and not the journal the author had to pay to be published

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guy 2 points 9 months ago

That's a different point

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wolframhydroxide 3 points 9 months ago

Not when the vast majority of music rights holders are not the artists. Then it becomes a far more apt comparison.

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breadguy 0 points 9 months ago

what about when you rent something

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grey_maniac 13 points 9 months ago

When you rent something, you can share it. You rent a car, you can have passengers. You rent an apartment, you can have visitors. You rent a tool, you can lend it to your neighbour.

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MonkderVierte 1 point 9 months ago

Then it's rent and not bought. That shitty excuse "akshualy you only bought the license, can't do what you want with it" is just abuse, because the buyer never gets clearly informed beforehand.

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breadguy 1 point 9 months ago

if we're still talking about spotify it's pretty clear you are not actually purchasing all of music for $15

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antonim 50 points 9 months ago

Earlier, I wasn't convinced this was due to Spotify because it happened incredibly quickly after the news about the scraping. Two weeks or so after AA's announcement, I'd hardly believe this sort of domain takedown can be carried out so swiftly, without the pirated material even being available on the site yet. Guess I was wrong, Spotify money can do miracles.

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Zombie 46 points 9 months ago

Funny how the same doesn't happen when X hosts CSAM though... Money truly can do miracles

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ChaosSpectre 38 points 9 months ago

Glad they can throw money at this, but still pay artists dogshit

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Fijxu 44 points 9 months ago

I stopped believing in DMCA/DRM/Copyright legality when big tech can use pirated content for their AI training and not pay a cent for it because the judge said "Is fair use" or whatever

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bookmeat 2 points 9 months ago

In some countries it's only illegal to distribute. Downloading is perfectly legal.

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Zoot 2 points 9 months ago

Issue is, AI can and has "distributed" that which it pirated, sometimes verbatim, when asked by someone using said model.

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sopularity_fax 29 points 9 months ago

I feel like the whole Spotify thing was a misstep, I really dont know what to make of the whole thing

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Almacca 56 points 9 months ago

They poked the Beast. I admire their moxy, and I hope they survive.

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fluffykittycat 8 points 9 months ago

It was a big ball move for sure, but they should probably get their domain name game good now that they're doing stuff like this

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altkey 7 points 9 months ago

It seems like overstretching the image of primarly-bookhunting piracy community. It could've been Anna's Playlist or something. Next we'd hear the FitGirl's name is Anya too.

Having a resource with a distinct field of interest and set of challenges, foes, arguments makes way more sense to me. In public perception, stealing a book and stealing a CD, or a movie are waslty different cases, and being book-first was their natural advantage in claiming the high horse in every discussion.

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sopularity_fax 3 points 9 months ago

Like I dont get why they had to take credit for it. Like, fine, find an anonymous way to distribute and seed it initially, I just dont get why they felt like they needed to stamp their brand on it

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altkey 5 points 9 months ago

I guess, besides stupid pride and challenging copyright fuckos, it also whitelists these uploads as coming from a reputable source, shows that's the community is alive and still kicking.

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brooke592 4 points 9 months ago

Nah. It was great and we should see more of it.

Stop being afraid to fight because your enemies might fight back.

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protogen420 11 points 9 months ago

so how do I access it now?

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Cenotaph 45 points 9 months ago path: 0 21685371 21685738, hotness: undefined, score: 45, children: 0
atropa 9 points 9 months ago
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sabreW4K3 23 points 9 months ago

I never jumped on board with it. But people use it and it's news.

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guy -8 points 9 months ago

What service did you use instead? If none, you missed out on a majorly convenient service for the user.

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sabreW4K3 15 points 9 months ago

I'm old, I like to own my music. I've never liked the idea of leasing music. I'm sure Spotify works wonderfully for some users, for me, Navidrome does everything I need of it.

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guy -9 points 9 months ago

That's cool. I just wanted to point out that Spotify was absolutely amazing when it came, it practically killed music torrenting. That you never jumped on board with it made you miss out on a fantastic service is all I say!

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Azzu 11 points 9 months ago

I've always just had to type a songname into a box and have it 10 seconds later. So Spotify gave absolutely no advantage in access to music.

The only semi-relevant new thing Spotify had was music recommendations, but I never cared about that. I've never had trouble finding good music organically, nor even the need to listen to new songs all the time.

So yeah, for me, it never was more convenient than what I had before and I don't think I've missed anything.

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guy 0 points 9 months ago

How did you solve music on your phone without having to connect it to your computer and transfering it? :o

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atropa 1 point 9 months ago
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slothrop 8 points 9 months ago

I still use smoke signals to communicate afar.

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MonkderVierte 1 point 9 months ago
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brooke592 6 points 9 months ago

We need to move away from the DNS as quickly as possible.

It's just another tool of control.

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fyrilsol 5 points 9 months ago
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slothrop 32 points 9 months ago

They should have stayed secret so only you, my friend's neighbour's 2nd cousin, once removed, and I knew about them.

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fyrilsol 8 points 9 months ago
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black0ut 17 points 9 months ago

Piracy (and Anna's Archive)'s mission is to share information, especially culture, with everyone, regardless of their ability to pay for it and regardless of the geoblocks. Keeping the service hidden may benefit you and the few people that know about it, but it isn't the purpose of these sites. They felt they were protected enough, and they decided to take another step towards their objective, that's it.

In practice, nothing's gonna happen. They already have 4 different domains. Even if they managed to seize the servers and cancel every domain, all of Anna's Archive data is out there on public torrents, and their software is also FOSS. Anyone can make a mirror.

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Sibbo 2 points 9 months ago

How is Anna's Archive legal to begin with?

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cerebralhawks 30 points 9 months ago

It isn't.

There's an Ars Technica article published yesterday or the day before about the book metadata scraping, and a representative for AA came right out and said they deliberately violate copyright law in most countries.

They believe, apparently, that collecting information is more valuable than being legal. In that case, they were ordered by a court to delete the data they scraped and they were not expected to comply (and have not done so). The .org suspension was thought to be related to that. Apparently it is not.

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pirateKaiser 16 points 9 months ago

They believe, apparently, that collecting information is more valuable than being legal

Woah woah woah there cowboy! That's only ok when you're big tech, not when you do it against them. Sheesh, the nerve on this guy...

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cerebralhawks 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah like it's fine if you're Meta (Facebook) and you pirate books to train AI, but if you say it's for human knowledge, so that a poor person in a third world country who might pull in $100 a month can still have access to books and music... they figure it's worth it if a bunch of spoiled Americans can also get it for free, as long as they seed.

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Sibbo 7 points 9 months ago path: 0 21681370 21681659 21681677 21682208, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
DoucheBagMcSwag 3 points 9 months ago

Told you

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themachinestops 2 points 9 months ago path: 0 21706139, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0

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