Sometimes I feel like I'm being mean when I pick on my nonvegan friends. - SLRPNK

3 years ago by will stedden to c/vegan

But then I remember I didn’t take their children away, hook them up to a machine to extract food from them, or kill them. And that makes me feel like making fun of carnists is not so bad.

jerkface 8 points 3 years ago

What's your objective? Probably you make fun of them because of your own emotional needs. Yes, you'd like them to change, but if you were consciously coming up with a method to engender change, you probably wouldn't choose mocking and alienation. Teasing is more likely a way of protecting yourself and your feelings. The single best thing any vegan can do to make more vegans is to be a visible positive example.

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alottachairs 3 points 3 years ago

You can not, and should not, strive to change people. People can only change themselves. I think what you add here is spot on, people want to mimic those they admire, so the best we can do is be a positive example. Of course, speak the truth, we must be kind and accountable. The result will also lead you to being the best version of yourself, so its a win for us too.

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jerkface 3 points 3 years ago

If I had even ONE realistic example of a vegan in my life, instead of just carnist projections of veganism, I might have reformed 20 or more years sooner than I did.

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bonkerfield 2 points 3 years ago

I'm a pretty visible positive example I'd say. My objective is to provide reminders to reframe carnism as socially stigmatized. I think this mostly works because a lot of my friends are vegan, but there are a few "bros" who rationalize why they don't need to change.

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handygaber 4 points 3 years ago

Can relate but I see it as planting a seed which might sprout later.

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desivegan 3 points 3 years ago

I also feel the same way. But some of them understand, why I am telling them but they never take action eventhough they know the truth behind it.

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