Yet another L from Sabine Hossenfelder

3 years ago by Ragdoll X to c/comradeship

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Hossenfelder just posted a video titled "Capitalism is good. Let me explain.", and it's about what you'd expect.

Some societal advancement happened under a capitalist system? Well then capitalism must get the credit. She also conflates "capitalism" and "markets" pretty often.

Hossenfelder contends that markets need to be regulated to not be abused by those in power or fuck up the environment, but insists that despite these regulations this is still a free market, and therefore free markets/capitalism are good, we just need to "set it up properly".

She only makes passing remarks about Greta Thunberg and Marx as opponents of capitalism whom you should pay no attention to, and does essentially what economists in the 1800s did: Philosophize about what non-existent "completely rational" consumers and corporations might do, and not look at any actual data.

The like/dislike ratio and the comments tearing into her do give me some hope though.

su25 21 points 3 years ago

her attributing scientific progress solely to capitalist backing is pathetic. the soviet union went from feudalism to sending the first man in space in around 50 years. please tell me more about how capitalism has been efficient in scientific research that isn't related to warfare and cool new killing machines.

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bennieandthez 16 points 3 years ago

A "scientist" without a dialectical outlook, what a world we live in.

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FishLake 18 points 3 years ago path: 0 3064429, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 1
TankieReplyBot 6 points 3 years ago

A YouTube link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same video on Invidious, which is a YouTube frontend that protects your privacy:

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RedSquid 14 points 3 years ago

Shitty "scientist" with a failed career turned into a youtube grifter. It's no surprise her main selling points are bigotry against trans people and those on the autism spectrum, and this... braindead drivel.

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ATiredPhilosopher 9 points 3 years ago

Accurate reporting reason

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Tatar_Nobility 9 points 3 years ago

I haven't yet watched the entire video (in fact, I didn't pass two minutes) but right off the bat she assumes that economies were originally (and always) sustained by a bartering system, a presumption as old as capitalism. Many scholars prove that this was not the case. This repetitive anecdote only serves to create an imaginary problem to justify the necessity of capitalism later on.

I might edit my post as I watch the rest of the video.

Edit: "but that's another story," a story which she will actively avoid because it overturns the entire mode of production on which she a priori built her fantasies.

Edit 2: her conflation of capitalism and "progress" is very problematic in its own right. She's basically saying that without capitalism there could be no "progress", no "innovation" and no "civilization". The only way to progress is through capitalism. I am reminded by what Mark Fisher wrote on capitalist realism, which is a "widespread sense that not only is capitalism the only viable political and economic system, but also that it is now impossible even to imagine a coherent alternative to it."

Edit 3: she writes in the description that "[t]his video is a brief summary of a dip I did into microeconomics literature in a dark hour of my life." It shows.

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FistOfTheRedStar 8 points 3 years ago path: 0 3072142 3078430, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
LarkinDePark 8 points 3 years ago

Then how come it's failed wherever it's been tried?

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ksynwa 7 points 3 years ago

Isn't she a physicist?

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AlbigensianGhoul 9 points 3 years ago

Might be the de Grasse Tyson Effect where one PhD in one field gives them free pass to authoritatively say nonsense in any other field. Pop scientists have this thing for getting too high on their popularity.

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TankieReplyBot 4 points 3 years ago

A YouTube link was detected in your post. Here are links to the same video on Invidious, which is a YouTube frontend that protects your privacy:

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chocoraisinboi 3 points 3 years ago

By that measure anarchim invented the fire and the wheel 😬

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Shrike502 2 points 3 years ago

Literally who?

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TokenBoomer 1 point 3 years ago

Please don’t give her ad revenue by clicking. Watch reaction videos instead.

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Ragdoll_X 0 points 3 years ago

Fair point. I've changed the YouTube links to Invidious instead.

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