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NullNowhere 55 points 3 years ago

We're encountering several little phenomena here.

  1. Many of the people who were passionate or concerned about this issue are here and elsewhere - but they're no longer on reddit. The anti-protesters are those who didn't understand, didn't care, and are just annoyed that their opium hit is suddenly asking them to give a shit. They're consumers, and in the absence of those who care, they've gotten bolder and a larger proportion of representation on the site. In the ~2 times I have checked in on Reddit, I've noticed a drop in comment quality.
  2. This is a classic Conservative reaction. Not exactly the Donkey/Elephant kind, but that raw conservative instinct endemic to humanity. It's the fear that change is a zero-sum game, where is people move up, other's status degrade, or if it doesn't. that someone will create a new environment that they themselves are less familiar and adept at navigating. Some people are so insecure that they'll lash out at anyone as long as it makes them just sit still in their chairs, please. These people are fear-driven ghouls, it could have been anything and you'd get a similar reaction.
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Yglorba 22 points 3 years ago

This is a classic Conservative reaction. Not exactly the Donkey/Elephant kind

I mean it kinda is also that kind. If you look at the post histories of the loudest and most aggressive people who oppose the protests, it's pretty clear they're right-leaning ultra-capitalist types. Which is not much of a surprise; since the protests are against Reddit's efforts to aggressively monetize the site, they're effectively a protest against the effects of capitalism.

It's also pretty clear that a lot of the loudest and most aggressive anti-protest types are arriving there from links being posted on right-wing forums - you can see this in the lingo and memes they use, which mostly come from that crowd.

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NullNowhere 8 points 3 years ago

I mean it kinda is also that kind.

I don't disagree, but I thought it was important to point out that this comes from something deeper than just rank partisanship before something thought I was merely culture-warring.

you can see this in the lingo and memes they use, which mostly come from that crowd.

Yeah I debated touching on this, but didn't know how as you did. This is the 'drop in quality' I was referring to. There's been a marked uptick in the impotent-anger nihilism talk/memes that characterize the reactionaries, elon-musk dickriders, and crypto-bros. I saw that the two times I was there and decided I wanted none of that swamp.

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Kondi 3 points 3 years ago

One of the primary ideas behind capitalism is embracement of competition so in my eyes those who instantly disregard alternatives to Reddit can't be called ultra-capitalist at all. And I bet there are a lot of 'types' of people that stayed there so if possible I would refrain from generalization, though it does seem some of them are complacent, reluctant to accepting change and/or adjusting their habits, which does somewhat correlate with conservatism afaik.

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DownloadMode 6 points 3 years ago

I agree with the phenomena at play, but have to say that conservatism/liberalism (not the political kind) is not a black and white characteristic. It is much more nuanced than that. A person can be entirely conservative in one ideological area of their life, and entirely liberal in another. Eg. (this example may be using the political sense just for illustration) Someone may be entirely fiscally conservative with their money, but entirely socially liberal with their social mores (very open-minded sexually, etc). Or vise-versa, or any other combination thereof.

The way that we as humans tend to group people into black and white, dualistic groups is not only destructive to the human race, it's inaccurate. Humans are not dualistic, black and white beings. Everyone's characteristics and beliefs are a smattering of many different aspects, all presenting/leaning in conservative or liberal, one way or the other. But very few people fit into the category where everything they believe is conservative, or liberal. Most people are a complex combination. Trying to oversimplify it into two categories is a creation of political and media narratives that keeps people divided and powerless to greater interests, and hating each other. Humans are much more complex than that. We all have many liberal and conservative aspects, masculine and feminine aspects, etc.

Of course, every four years in November, they use the best tactics they can through our screens to make sure we fully pledge our loyalty to one of those two categories.

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nomadjoanne 1 point 3 years ago

Everyone is conservative about the things they love. So it the nuance makes sense.

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bandario 0 points 3 years ago

Preach! Such as it is in every democracy. You ever wonder why they do it? An attempt to convince you that there's only 2 parties. To break real democracy. Vote for the freaks. Freak power!

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bandario 0 points 3 years ago

Only NPCs remain. Nobody with a shred of intelligence or dignity would still use the platform that is acting against their interests and looking to monetize their creative output with no reward.

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