This is a classic Conservative reaction. Not exactly the Donkey/Elephant kind

I mean it kinda is also that kind. If you look at the post histories of the loudest and most aggressive people who oppose the protests, it's pretty clear they're right-leaning ultra-capitalist types. Which is not much of a surprise; since the protests are against Reddit's efforts to aggressively monetize the site, they're effectively a protest against the effects of capitalism.

It's also pretty clear that a lot of the loudest and most aggressive anti-protest types are arriving there from links being posted on right-wing forums - you can see this in the lingo and memes they use, which mostly come from that crowd.

I agree with the phenomena at play, but have to say that conservatism/liberalism (not the political kind) is not a black and white characteristic. It is much more nuanced than that. A person can be entirely conservative in one ideological area of their life, and entirely liberal in another. Eg. (this example may be using the political sense just for illustration) Someone may be entirely fiscally conservative with their money, but entirely socially liberal with their social mores (very open-minded sexually, etc). Or vise-versa, or any other combination thereof.

The way that we as humans tend to group people into black and white, dualistic groups is not only destructive to the human race, it's inaccurate. Humans are not dualistic, black and white beings. Everyone's characteristics and beliefs are a smattering of many different aspects, all presenting/leaning in conservative or liberal, one way or the other. But very few people fit into the category where everything they believe is conservative, or liberal. Most people are a complex combination. Trying to oversimplify it into two categories is a creation of political and media narratives that keeps people divided and powerless to greater interests, and hating each other. Humans are much more complex than that. We all have many liberal and conservative aspects, masculine and feminine aspects, etc.

Of course, every four years in November, they use the best tactics they can through our screens to make sure we fully pledge our loyalty to one of those two categories.

Only NPCs remain. Nobody with a shred of intelligence or dignity would still use the platform that is acting against their interests and looking to monetize their creative output with no reward.

They're not even contrarian they're just ignorant and they love it. You can present them facts all day long and they just never learn or at least try to understand. I didn't even bother replying to the people that replied to me on that comment thread I mentioned because it's just a waste of time.

Second point is true for the most part most people that would leave of course have already left either abstaining from social media (or at least Reddit) or coming over here.

I will never understand the people that support what Reddit does though I actually do not see the downside to protesting for the greater good aside of not being able to chow down on repost fodder for a while until Reddit gets their act together. They're actively hurting themselves, I'm very sure that the loss of 3rd party apps sooner or later will have an effect on even the people that dare use the official app (If Reddit has a monopoly of Reddit apps why should they waste their resources improving that app).

No, a large portion of pirates are just "gimme free shit" types. They don't care about preservation nor fighting various causes. They don't care about the people who make the free shit nor seed the free shit. They care about nothing but themselves. So I'm actually not surprised to see that sort of me me me sentiment there. The people who did care are probably gone, all that's left are the leeches.

I’m totally in favor of socialized social media. Since shortly after the blackout I’ve been looking into the fediverse (it’s all very confusing, depending what order you find things in, though the new user guides are making it a lot more friendly), and the whole idea of being able to choose what sort of communities you interact with, having control over what happens directly? Fabulous.

I’m really looking forward to the mobile apps that are being worked on, but ultimately I hope the people who suck take forever to show up here, when things are already well established as far as general behavioral practices between communities, and the shitty people have to find a bubble universe and leave everyone else alone.

Yes! When the blackout was first announced I wanted to go over there and see them supporting it asap I don't remember the early reception anymore since I don't even remember what happened yesterday but the only stuff that I remember is mostly in favor of the Reddit Administration and not the protest which is EXTREMELY weird for a piracy subreddit.

It's not even the decentralization hate that surprises me the most, it is the support for big corpo that surprises (and disappoints) me the most.

But yeah gotta agree with the last point, quality over quantity.

Where's the irony, they are literally "pirates". They just want free stuff. It's good to differentiate between the two.

• your resources are my resources, give us all your loot! They don't have much loot to share.

• Let's search for more treasure! (hobby)

Same here. Mods were the people that built the communities. I don't give a flying f*** to the admins, and as long as we get a good Leminn app, I'll be happy.

Yea I wasn't surprised that people on reddit were ready to forgive and forget in pretty much every sub after a few days, the people that were fed up had already left.

My brain red this as antisemitic protest

The article is from 2012. Reddit (and the fake profiles) was started in 2005.

I think that's the difference between pirates that believe in free exchange of media and information, who take a moral stance against the corporations... vs guys who just want the easiest way to see the newest marvel movie without paying, they are already going out of there comfort zone to learn to pirate at all and they don't want any further inconvenience.

I don't even bother to reply to these type of people anymore I just downvote them and get on with it because I know arguing with them is the biggest waste of time, have already done it enough (I can see the hypocrisy coming from me posting a whole rant about them but I thought that would be more worth my time).

I feel the same way. I'm actually surprised how easy it was too break my Reddit habit and transition over here. So far the communities I've joined seem to have a more pleasant crowd than on Reddit. We'll see how long that lasts 😂

I'm excited to see what happens, a significant amount of knowledge is moving to a much more democratic platform. If the people who can give useful answers to questions are here others will end up moving here to get access to that.

I know that I'm going to make an effort to help make this place worth using.

I literally Lol'd at this, being a server at a restaurant in a Downtown area for years, parades were so much worse than protests. I get the point you were making, and I agree, I just found it funny when I read it.

How many posters left on the platform do you think are humans, and how many are bots?

Even the humans that remain are NPCs, so it's just bots all the way down.

Yeah, ironic. A medium that should encourage vibrant communication and idea exchange has instead nurtured ignorance and hate. 🤦‍♀️ Thanks for your post!

I came here to say the same. Thanks.

Yeah stay chill

Very true, I still log on from time to time though (of course via old reddit + ad block) to see how the protest works out, new subreddit rules etc that I vote on in favor of the protest of course.

To the question at the end, I actually registered on Lemmy first and registered on kbin a bit later, for me it is very much the same but I prefer kbins interface the only other difference that I know of is of course the "Microblogs" which I look at sometimes but don't use myself.

But yeah some people are weirdly defensive of reddit fsr

I'm not even sure what they're mad about though because the last few times that I actively took part in r/piracy the top posts at least were always memes instead of useful information and otherwise the megathread has many backups on different locations as well as fmhy which has its own website.

They don't lose access to ish no matter the protest. But given their ignorance I can see how they could think that.

The problem is that with the heavy downvoting of the information, the people that would see the messages and be like "Oh yeah that sounds cool I might as well check it out" either won't see the messages at all ever or they'd only see the negative score and think if everyone downvotes it it must be bad.

That's also one of the things I like about this platform, is that downvotes are transparent, it shows who downvoted if you know where to look as well as how many downvotes and upvotes a post or comment has instead of the score that Reddit shows.

I also like the "quietness" that we have at the moment, content is more profound and not obliterated with upvotes or downvotes, you have to form your own opinion. Makes interacting more interesting to be honest.

I can also understand not wanting to delete the account, I haven't deleted mine either yet but mostly since it wouldn't make too much of a difference anyways with my comments rarely seeing any interaction at all due to drops in the ocean. I will probably delete it though when I stop using Reddit at all in the next month.

Ikr? The whole exciting aspect for me when it comes to the fediverse is that it's not corporate, and even if some companies made instances they would only be a part of the whole that is the fediverse