TikTok Is Designed to Get Users Hooked

3 months ago by MadeInDex šŸ“°šŸŒŽ to c/news

cmbabul 87 points 3 months ago

No shit, all social media is designed to keep user engaged and using the service

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Procleus 23 points 3 months ago

Correct. This is not specific to TikTok, and speaks more to the social media paradigm shift as a whole.

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otp 14 points 3 months ago

Including Lemmy, in a sense.

Even if not purposely, it's designed to resemble systems that were built this way for that purpose.

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cmbabul 2 points 3 months ago

It is for sure addictive, I don’t find it as malicious because of it’s decentralized nature, meaning that a TikTok style algorithm or the various ways Meta drives engagement isn’t present and would be nearly impossible to implement across all the instances and other Fediverse apps. It’s like if cigs ONLY made you smell bad and wouldn’t kill you, still gross and bad to be hooked, but not actively causing irreversible harm

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otp 2 points 3 months ago

I agree with part of what you're saying, but I think it's worse than you're saying.

I think it's more like if cigarettes were a bit less addictive, still gave you cancer, but nobody becomes a billionaire thanks to your addiction and cancer.

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madeindex 1 point 3 months ago path: 0 22993511 23025484, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
TigerAce 20 points 3 months ago

Wheel designed to roll, researches say.

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madeindex 0 points 3 months ago

🤣 🤣 🤣

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sudoMakeUser 17 points 3 months ago

No friggen way

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webp 6 points 3 months ago

I for one am shocked.

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yogurtwrong 14 points 3 months ago

Breaking News: Fork found in kitchen

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Next up: Scientists at CERN say it is possible for water to wet things.

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madeindex 2 points 3 months ago

Hahahah thank you for this one hahaha Actually before this article I was reading: "Fork found on Github" ;)

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tal 13 points 3 months ago

Over that stunningly short amount of time viewing and swiping, the algorithm is able to direct hyper-personalized content to viewers.

I mean, that's...not really a negative. You could argue that the content is largely fluff (which I think it is, when it comes to short-form video), or maybe that material that appeals to a user isn't what would help them the most or any number of other things, but being able to find and provide content that is a function of a user's interests is normally something that one would consider desirable. I'd rather do less scrolling past things that I'm not interested in viewing.

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dhork 17 points 3 months ago

You are making the mistake of assuming this is done for your benefit, though. You are not TikTok's customer. You are the product, and advertisers are their customers.

They aren't showing you things you are interested in, they are showing you things their customers are paying to show you.

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village604 9 points 3 months ago

I can't stand it when my wife says, "people on TikTok all love this product."

Right, because they're being paid to say that.

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madeindex 2 points 3 months ago

Hahah that is the worst argument I have ever heard ;)

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madeindex 2 points 3 months ago

their

But in a subtle way to make you think it's what you wanted eh ;)

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MagicShel 4 points 3 months ago

I found TikTok to have a great algorithm for what I wanted to see. I discovered some quality content there. That said I haven't used it since the buyout and I miss some of the posters in a way, but it's not like they were irreplaceably filling some void in my life.

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LucidNightmare 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, after the initial cleaning up of the algo (tell TikTok you're not interested in whatever you don't want to see) I had nothing but a good experience on there. I, like you, stopped using it once the buy out happened.

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madeindex 1 point 3 months ago

What specifically do you miss most? Is it something that loops.video doesn't have?

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MagicShel 4 points 3 months ago

The algorithm at really good at presenting people who were relevant to my interests. People I wouldn't have any idea I would like. Like Mr. Global for insight into oil markets. Stoobs and Kit Lazer for movie reviews. The autistic stats guy for analyzing truth behind headlines. Some guy for Dr Doom facts and anarchist POV on current events.

Like there were people that if you described them to me, I'd be like... pass. And yet I found them educational and interesting. I don't know how another platform offers that algorithm, even if the other features are great. It's not a knock on anyone else. I have zero interest in YouTube shorts, for example.

That's nothing against loops.video. I might like it if I tried it.

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madeindex 2 points 3 months ago

Magic

Yeah I guess no algorithm also has a downside, however if you like to see mostly what your friends and people you follow post, it's probably much better.

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madeindex 1 point 3 months ago

Problem is they abuse that, people trust the algorithm and then they can easily be manipulated I guess ;)

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orbituary 1 point 3 months ago path: 0 22992745 22994819, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
certified_expert 13 points 3 months ago

In other news, water wets

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phoenixarise 12 points 3 months ago

Glad I never used it. It’s not my scene. Most social media is trash, now.

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madeindex 8 points 3 months ago

yeah, Fedi feels so much better, glad to be here with you friends :))

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phoenixarise 4 points 3 months ago

Same. Fedi is like a cool glass of water in the fetid humidity of social media.

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madeindex 7 points 3 months ago

Love that analogy <3 People here are also much much nicer. Not sure why, maybe because it's more idealists?

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Stefan_S_from_H 1 point 3 months ago

How do you know it isn't your scene? You don't like kittens and puppies?

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vaultdweller013 6 points 3 months ago

Short form content is ass. Anything shorter than a two hour video on the battle-axe culture of ancient Europe is too short.

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phoenixarise 2 points 3 months ago

I can look at those with Loops and PeerTube šŸ˜‰

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Stefan_S_from_H 1 point 3 months ago

But do you learn there that Chinese people are nice and clever and that China is the best country in the world?

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phoenixarise 2 points 3 months ago

Don’t need to, I learned it here. šŸ˜‰

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orbituary 10 points 3 months ago

I love how these articles come out years after we're already aware of it.

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electrotabby 1 point 3 months ago

It's a good thing to have statistics and understand the mechanisms that cause addiction. Better late then never.

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Feathercrown 8 points 3 months ago

Water wet

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madeindex 3 points 3 months ago

Zuckerberg evil

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Dyskolos 6 points 3 months ago
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madeindex 1 point 3 months ago

mindblowing mindblowing I say haha Sad part is, there are still so many people out there who do not know this yet :( We have to keep raising awareness until then :)

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Dyskolos 2 points 3 months ago
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Proprietary_Blend 4 points 3 months ago

No. Way.

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Luisp 3 points 3 months ago

doesn't work for me, a bomb of popular stuff without any depth outside of conspiracy and minors dancing, after dozens of videos I can't find anything interesting or even somewhat smart, it just stress me out and I leave with a bad feeling about the younger generations, wtf are you watching!

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madeindex 1 point 3 months ago

+1 Have you tried loops.video? Honestly the content on normal social media to me, feels extemely low quality compared to Fedi these days.

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