Three YouTubers accuse Apple of illegal scraping to train its AI models

4 months ago by Lee Duna to c/technology

The lawsuit claims that Apple "improperly circumvented" YouTube's platform protections to scrape videos.
Grimy 47 points 4 months ago

If scrapping YouTube is against the law, that just means Google owns all video generation as well as anything to do with speech for the most part. Whisper was built mainly on YouTube vids.

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Squizzy 4 points 4 months ago

By uploading you agree to being used by google amd there was a rwcent update of the language to show their partners, of which Apple were recently announced as using gemini for siri.

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BlameTheAntifa 29 points 4 months ago

I’m sure the regular people being stolen from will definitely win against the gigantic multi-trillion dollar company this time. 🫩

Sorry for the negativity. We’ve seen this play out so many times. Courts keep ruling that it’s okay when the companies do it to us peasants, but it’s life-ruining if a peasant does it to a company.

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ChaosMonkey 18 points 4 months ago

Obligatory F DMCA, but also F Apple.

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Eyekaytee 14 points 4 months ago

since when does apple do llms ?

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acosmichippo 32 points 4 months ago

The lawsuit is about this research paper by apple engineers where they say they used the Panda 70M training set. It is a collection of publicly sourced video content and the plaintiffs claim their content is in it.

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mnemonicmonkeys 2 points 4 months ago

publicly sourced != public domain

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halcyoncmdr 3 points 4 months ago

Of course they do. Apple Intelligence.

But even more broadly you can assume Apple is working on it if:

  1. It is in any way tech-related.
  2. It has the possibility of marketing existing technology as "magical" and easy to use.
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SamuelRJankis 2 points 4 months ago path: 0 23085584 23085653, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 2
a_gee_dizzle 3 points 4 months ago

I think its based on Gemini now

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Repelle 3 points 4 months ago

The remote models are but the on-device ones were trained by apple

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Dojan 1 point 4 months ago

Don’t know if they do LLMs but they’ve had machine learning features for years. They added the ability to extract subjects from images and turning them into stickers back in 2023.

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cyberpunk007 6 points 4 months ago

We are so fucked. Thisisfine.jpg

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ChaosMonkey 3 points 4 months ago

🔥🔥🔥

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resipsaloquitur 5 points 4 months ago

Training the AI that Apple supposedly doesn’t have? Which is it?

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Rai 3 points 4 months ago

Your comment is very confusing.

Nobody said Apple doesn’t have AI/LLM tech, it’s just on-device instead of on-server (which is why it’s not very good…)

It still needs to be trained on massive amounts of data… otherwise it wouldn’t be Large or a Model.

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Auli -1 points 4 months ago

Doesn't matter if on device or not you still need massive computing power and data to train it.

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Rai 4 points 4 months ago

That’s… what I said…

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Avicenna 4 points 4 months ago

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acosmichippo 1 point 4 months ago
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