Daily Voice Training

4 months ago by Courtney (she/her/they) to c/mtf

Ugh I hate voice training so much but after yesterday's breakdown while trying and getting two "voice analysis" results showing "0% female, 92% male" I decided to watch some videos I've seen recommended, and honestly YuukoEX was the one that helped me the most because I feel like I can try to emulate her voice better than others I've heard.

After spending yesterday on exercises and trying to figure out various muscles around my throat, I managed this:

It's not much, but it's an improvement!

Also, I'm trying eye liner today! It's a little smudged in one or two spots, but it makes a HUGE difference in my own perception! I even took a face selfie! On purpose!! (for myself I am not nearly confident enough to post lol)

So if you need the reminder, I guess here it is!

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renegadespork 29 points 4 months ago

Don’t read too much into those percentages. IIRC app uses solely pitch to generate that ratio. It has no way of measuring how masculine or feminine your voice actually sounds.

Any woman could get 100% male just by talking deep while still sounding like a woman, and vice versa.

Pitch is one factor that humans use to assume gender, but it’s not the only one and most vocal coaches agree that it’s not even the most important one.

My speech therapist helps a lot of trans folks and she specifically recommends people don’t use the analysis feature of that app because it usually just discourages people.

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EggInDisguise 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I'm using it as more of a pitch guide, I've got a guitar tuner so I could totally just use that, but I already had the app and it's convenient with graphs and such, so I'll use it.

I'd love to get a couple afternoons with a voice trainer, that would be FAR more effective than an app.

Heck, even a couple videos of trans women going over voice training exercises in a voice I feel I can emulate is better.

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joella 6 points 4 months ago

https://acousticgender.space/

That page will report your pitch and resonance. I used voice tools quite a bit before finding this. Granted, this is a bit more fiddly to use. I've not used it in a few years because the last time I did the server wouldn't return results, but yesterdays attempt was successful. I might start using it again since you reminded me. So, thanks for that!

I hope you come to find training enjoyable. Somehow voice is one of the more affirming things I've undertaken. The ability to slam your voice back and forth between masculine and feminine is kinda fun too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stJUuDqpO_Q

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TheGingerNut 1 point 4 months ago

It thinks my voice is pretty much 50:50, which is weird because listening back on my own voice I think I sound pretty femme. Is it accurate in your experience?

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joella 2 points 4 months ago

Is it accurate in your experience?

I've not had professional voice training or anyone else that I trust to evaluate my progress. I can only say that the content of its report seems to accurately reflect changes that I induce. The included examples also appear to reflect its accuracy. Granted, that's all still terribly subjective.

I used it as a sort of video game whereby I'd shoot for the "highest score" (pitch and resonance) just to explore that sensation.. not with the intention of using those parameters for casual speech. My thought was that if I pushed the pendulum past the point where I wanted it to be in practice then I would land in the correct parameters during casual use.

I (think I) found that pushing to maximum pitch and resonance teaches one to change their oral and laryngeal posture to more accurately perform feminine speech.. not just pitch and resonance, but also accent. That's where your 50:50 comes in. I believe 50:50 can easily be femme with the proper accent.

I think it also plumb wrecked my hillbilly accent.. and I'm fine with that.

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