'What a joke': Github Copilot's new token-based billing spurs consternation among devs

22 days ago by Rimu to c/technology

The golden age of Microsoft's GitHub Copilot appears to be at an end.

MS is switching its billing system from a flat subscription rate to a token-usage system that has the potential to bill users at a significantly higher rate.

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Th4tGuyII 44 points 22 days ago

Did people not realise big tech has been largely subsidising the cost of AI usage in order to get people on-board?

The cost was always going to go up eventually, and it will go up again because those "hyperscaling" data-centres cost a lot of money, and the investors want their money back and then some.

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LurkingLuddite 18 points 22 days ago

Those "people" are executives, and no, they didn't. Those fucking morons thought they could replace people, amd they tried first chance they got. This should be a wakeup call for everyone, everyone to unionize against these rich, greedy piles of shit literal morons.

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Omega_Jimes 5 points 22 days ago

They weren't hiding this information. OpenAI Burns $2.30 for every $1 they charge the customer. They want us to use LLMs for every facet of our lives so we have no choice when they crank the cost up.

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SpaceNoodle 25 points 22 days ago

Huh, my brain costs just as much to use as it did last week.

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NoForwadSlashS 15 points 22 days ago

Idk about that, food prices are increasing quite rapidly

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SpaceNoodle 2 points 22 days ago

Touché

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hperrin 20 points 22 days ago

Lol. Guess it’s time everyone found out.

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dgriffith 17 points 22 days ago

that has the potential to

Of course it has "the potential to", that's the whole fucking point of this change.

The compute hardware required to give you that obsequious-chatbot-on-demand is phenomenal. AI as a whole has been burning billions upon billions of dollars getting to these lofty heights where it's alleged that everyone's job is threatened, any day now.

And now's the time to get to the other side of the equation, the dreaded return on investment, where people have to pay what it actually costs. Plus a modest amount for that actual return of course, that's the thing that all those investors actually want.

Whether Microsoft has actually managed to get enough people hooked on the particular brand of crack they're selling is questionable. In any case it'll be fun to watch at least.

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addie 1 point 22 days ago

Plus a modest amount for the actual return

Not sure it's going to be all that modest. A lot of the data centres have been financed using debt, plus all the GPUs inside are depreciating hard, plus the rate needs to cover the cost of training and workforce, plus they won't be running at 100% capacity all the time so they'll need a bit extra to cover low-utilisation periods, plus this has been sold as the next big thing and the saviour of the world economy, so modest returns simply will not do.

Not going to be so much "inference costs plus ten percent" as "starting at inference costs times ten". Personally, can't wait for the bubble to burst and the whole thing to collapse, but I've got my schadenfreude ready for when the big bills start to arrive.

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AllNewTypeFace 6 points 22 days ago

and/or people cosplaying as devs

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PumpkinEscobar 3 points 22 days ago

They’re just trying to help developers reach the target Jensen Huang set, that developers should be spending half their salaries on tokens. Now you can do that so much more quickly.

It’s how you build the biggest bubble.

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