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nirodhaavidya 57 points 13 days ago

Bemotrizinol

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Unpigged 3 points 12 days ago

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh Bemotrizinol krimpatul.

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wabafee 2 points 13 days ago

Bemo-trizi-nol or Bemot-riz-eul?

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Veedem 25 points 13 days ago

That’s pretty awesome. Shame it won’t be in time for this summer.

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BooBees 17 points 13 days ago

We get brief summers in all the seasons now thanks to climate change

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Quokka 12 points 13 days ago

It’s the UV that is the issue not the heat. Unless climate change shifts the tilt of Earths axis, your likelihood or receiving the rays will be more or less the same per season.

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huppakee 5 points 13 days ago

You're right about the seasons remaining the same but climate change does have an effect on the clouds in the sky, meaning climate change does effect how much uv-light reaches the surface of our planet, despite the earth continuing to rotate around itself and the sun in the same way.

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BooBees 2 points 12 days ago

It also affects how little can escape back out.

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BooBees 3 points 13 days ago

It was more a joke about how we can go out in shorts a few weeks in every season now because of the extreme microclimate changes.

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Jarix 3 points 13 days ago

What about us shorts all year round folks? I guess I need to move RReaLLLY car south or a little more north

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undefinedValue 2 points 13 days ago

Why not? The products already exist in Asia and Europe and they are now legal to be imported into the US. You could see them on shelves next week, today even if some companies had insider information on this coming into effect and timed it well.

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irotsoma 1 point 5 days ago

Most products are specifically packaged for a given market. Especially with more regulated products, it's may be legal to import the product itself, but not in the packaging that is legal in other places. Plus there are language barriers, supply network differences, differences in store shelf standard sizes so bottles fit on shelves, etc. It likely will take time to design and produce the packaging, push the product to each stage of intermediate warehouses, and finally get it to stores.

That said and individual could import their own, but you'll have to pay for the shipping yourself and deal with any market differences in pricing and costs of currency conversion if your credit card doesn't do it for free.

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undefinedValue 1 point 4 days ago

Ever been to an Asian grocery store? They use the exact same packaging and slap a sticker over the nutritional label that complies with local laws. It’s perfectly legal and cheap.

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irotsoma 0 points 3 days ago

That doesn't get it to you any faster or much cheaper than just individuals just paying a foreign company to ship it to them direct. You're adding another middleman importer that needs to make a profit while developing and paying people to apply the labels and deal with customs, shipping, warehousing, etc. They might be able to do it faster than the normal way, but it definitely would add significant cost. And if you're trying to get people to buy a new product, it's not good to start with a noncompetitive price. It makes people see it as unaffordable even after the price eventually stabilizes. First impressions are a big deal in product marketing.

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Veedem 1 point 12 days ago

The article even states they aren’t expected to hit shelves until the end of the year.

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rbos 12 points 13 days ago

Is this one of the ones that don't kill fish?

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Cris_Citrus 6 points 13 days ago

My impression has been that research doesnt actually support the concerns about sunscreen harming reefs, and that it was like one paper, the conclusions from which haven't been supported by wider reaseach? I could totally be wrong, I don't remember details very well

Are we thinking of the same thing? Not sure if there's another aquatic life impact people are concerned about with UV filters used in sunscreen

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tektite 7 points 13 days ago

This paper isn't free at the link but you can read the abstract, partially quoted below:

Toxicopathological Effects of the Sunscreen UV Filter, Oxybenzone (Benzophenone-3), on Coral Planulae and Cultured Primary Cells and Its Environmental Contamination in Hawaii and the U.S. Virgin Islands

"We examined the effects of oxybenzone on the larval form (planula) of the coral Stylophora pistillata, as well as its toxicity in vitro to coral cells from this and six other coral species. Oxybenzone is a photo-toxicant; adverse effects are exacerbated in the light. Whether in darkness or light, oxybenzone transformed planulae from a motile state to a deformed, sessile condition. Planulae exhibited an increasing rate of coral bleaching in response to increasing concentrations of oxybenzone. Oxybenzone is a genotoxicant to corals, exhibiting a positive relationship between DNA-AP lesions and increasing oxybenzone concentrations. Oxybenzone is a skeletal endocrine disruptor; it induced ossification of the planula, encasing the entire planula in its own skeleton."

Also there's this: 11/19/21-MAUI COUNTY COUNCIL PASSES HISTORIC BILL PROHIBITING NON-MINERAL SUNSCREENS

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Cris_Citrus 3 points 13 days ago

Because I am specifically thinking it may have been a paper that researchers dont feel reflect the broader body of evidence, I'd probably consider a meta analysis or systematic review more meaningful thank just one paper, as that paper may be the one I'm thinking of that is regarded as not accurately portraying the risk

I might be entirely mixed up, I may try to go looking for what I'm thinking of. If I do I'll try to provide an update

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bedwyr 1 point 12 days ago

Oxybenzone is toxic to people by the way, it's an endocrine disruptor. Which is bad.

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Cris_Citrus 1 point 12 days ago

As with all toxicological issues, the dose makes the poison

I have not read the research on oxybenzone specifically but "endocrine disruptor" tends to be a favorite claim for folks making unsubstantiated claims that some cosmetics ingredient is actually hazardous, and that need to be afraid of it

I don't know if theres a meaningful body of evidence to suggest that there are potential health problems caused by it, I would be curious to see if I can find a meta analysis on the subject, or at least systematic review so I can get a sense for the consensus, but I do find myself generally being skeptical of just about any claim that something used topically is a endocrine disruptor, since it feels it almost always turns up to be a distortion of facts when you go digging into the consensus presented by the research

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