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OpenAI made $13 billion in 2025 and lost $21 billion doing it

5 days ago by sanitation to c/technology

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Revenue growth has been dramatic. OpenAI generated $3.7 billion in revenue in 2024 before jumping to $13.07 billion in 2025. By the end of that year, monthly...
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masterspace -11 points 4 days ago

I have no love for AI but I feel like the people clowning on this don't understand the most basic aspects of how businesses work.

It is very common to take losses early on and return a profit later.

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sanitation 5 points 4 days ago

They won't ever break even. Chinese models are already comparable

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masterspace 1 point 3 days ago

No they're not.

The best Chinese models are good, but they're resoundingly outclassed by the likes of Claude.

And that's not to mention the Chinese models are trained off the American models, i.e. they can't exist without the American ones being developed first.

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sanitation 0 points 3 days ago

They don't train off American models, that's just their PR narrative to explain losing the race to a country without latest hardware

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sanitation 0 points 3 days ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-DVxMLFhi3o Glm 5.2 is almost the same as fable, difference is immaterial.

I use deepseek v4 pro daily and it's fine for most tasks and so cheap that I stick those deepseek api keys into most of my applications.

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