Sweden says Tesla's Self-Driving feature should not be approved in Europe unless its ability to ignore speed limits is removed

4 days ago by Wudi to c/europe

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Dojan 62 points 4 days ago

It shouldn’t be approved at all.

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idiomaddict 30 points 4 days ago

Agreed. I think choosing this issue to hang on is silly, because there are so many better ones.

Occasionally going faster than the speed limit to fit the flow of traffic can be the safer choice. Ignoring child pedestrians and forgoing LIDAR are not. Making your handles aerodynamic at the cost of the easy use of the door in a car with a dead battery is not. Turning off self driving moments before a collision to avoid a ding on their record is not. I could go on…

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mech 6 points 4 days ago

Have you ever driven in Sweden? Going the speed limit is never unsafe there, as this entire argument rests on the majority of drivers being shitty assholes.

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ViatorOmnium 0 points 4 days ago

"Machine should break the law because other machines are breaking the law" is not a good argument. All new cars should come with speed limiters and every old car going past the speed limit should be turned into a cube at expense of the driver.

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sidebro 4 points 4 days ago

I agree, because isn't accountability a huge issue? I haven't read up on it but I feel it would be.

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rumschlumpel 3 points 4 days ago

Unfortunately, politicians largely don't have accountability, either ...

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