Supreme Court unanimously strikes down gun law used to prosecute Hunter Biden

4 days ago by sanitation to c/politics

crandlecan 20 points 4 days ago

It... It almost feels like common sense prevailed??

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ExLisper -8 points 4 days ago

Yes, it's common sense that US needs more guns.

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thecommonistagenda 10 points 4 days ago

I’d argue at the very least, the left needs more guns

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Bonesince1997 10 points 4 days ago

That overlooks the disarmament of some, on the basis that they are assumed to be dangerous or harmful without ever having done anything to be labeled as such and thus lose rights, while allowing those rights to others.

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LuminousLuddite 1 point 3 days ago
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ExLisper -5 points 4 days ago

In sane countries there's no such thing as "right to have guns". Even in US this "right" was never intended to mean that. In sane countries there's plenty of rules around having a gun permit and committing crimes, even non-violent ones, can be a reason to lose one. Consuming or being addicted to illegal substances can absolutely mean you should not be allowed to own deadly weapons.

Americans really do sound like they are constantly on the verge of civil war and taking away someone's gun is basically a death sentence. "You can't disarm drug users. How will they survive the war?" It would be hilarious if t wasn't so sad.

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Bonesince1997 8 points 4 days ago

It's just the equal application of the law in this case.

"Drug users" includes marijuana. It's argued that the vast number of users can't all be seen as dangerous. It's clearly not what it was meant to do.

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zaph 3 points 4 days ago

Consuming or being addicted to illegal substances can absolutely mean you should not be allowed to own deadly weapons.

Ah yes because being addicted to a legal substance such as alcohol is leagues safer. No one ever got drunk and murdered anyone amirite. They're not going to get rid of the 2nd amendment any time soon so while it's still there at least we're getting a bit more fairness from the laws.

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FullPenguin 3 points 4 days ago

Even in US this "right" was never intended to mean that.

I'm sure you're going to start going on about Well Regulated Militias, and yet if someone tells you that they are in a militia that is organized and trains together regularly I bet you're going to double down on your efforts to disarm them.

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crandlecan 8 points 4 days ago

No, I didn't say that!! 😉

But now ppl of colour can have easier access to guns too.

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FullPenguin 18 points 4 days ago

The court said the old laws focused on people whose substance abuse left them unable to manage their lives, while the federal law broadly covered regular drug users regardless of whether they posed a threat to anyone.

 

"It’s a good day for the Second Amendment when all nine justices can agree to protect gun rights," Severino said. "The mere fact of illegal drug use, without more, isn’t enough to justify prosecution for gun ownership. Historically, ‘habitual drunkards’ who habitually lost use of their reason could have their rights restricted, but not just regular drinkers — even including Founding Fathers like John Adams, who drank ‘a tankard of hard cider’ with breakfast, or James Madison, who ‘consumed a pint of whisky daily.’

Seems like an incredibly reasonable take.

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mkwt 10 points 4 days ago

This headline is seriously misleading. The court did not "strike down" the entire law.

The law says that users of illegal drugs cannot purchase guns. The court said that the law cannot stop a person who uses marijuana a few times per week from buying a gun. Because marijuana usage is common and normalized now, a gun ban would violate that person's right to keep and bear arms.

This decision does not automatically get Hunter Biden off the hook, because Hunter Biden's case involved a much greater variety of drugs. Hunter will certainly try to litigate this, but success is not certain for him.

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cheese_greater 8 points 4 days ago

Why would he litigate it, he was pardoned. 0 incentive to put himself into more public scrutiny

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