Microsoft is killing the Microsoft account lock-in across products, Windows 11 may be next

3 days ago by sanitation to c/pcmasterrace

Microsoft Edge will let you sign in with a Google account from July, as Microsoft steps back from its strict Microsoft Account requirements.
the16bitgamer 31 points 3 days ago

This was the main reason I switched to Linux… even if this is implemented I have no desire to go back to Windows, but I might recommend MacBooks less to my less techie friends.

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blinkfink182 3 points 2 days ago

This and all the AI shit they continue to shove into windows is why I switched earlier this year. I couldn't be happier. No windows anywhere in my home anymore.

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Colonel_Panic_ 1 point 2 days ago

This sick strange darkness, comes creeping on so haunting every time.

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wltr -3 points 3 days ago

So, Linux didn’t help your Stockholm’s syndrome yet.

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the16bitgamer 3 points 2 days ago

I've been on Linux for the last 4 years. I have no intention on going back to Windows. Microslop has lost all trust with me.

The problem, is Linux isn't ready for my Grandmother yet, but she needs a computer. Macs work, as an alternative and with the Neo it's almost affordable. Chromebooks are just landfill, and while I'd love to keep them on the HPs, Acers, and Dells they are use to. I can't get Linux to the same state which they were use to in Windows.

One of these days it will get there, and Linux has moved very far and fast since I started toying with it in the mid 2010s. But it's not ready today.

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wltr 1 point 2 days ago

What’s specifically wrong with Linux for a grandmother? Or does she has some weird edge case with some very important niche Windows software? I’d call modern Gnome being even better than modern macOS in terms of simplicity. Telling Windows is better than macOS and Linux for a grandmother is weird. Unless the grandmother is a heavy Windows user who knows all the hotkeys and menus. If she barely uses browser with not much else, I don’t even know.

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the16bitgamer 2 points 2 days ago

Specifically usability. I would say Linux is about Windows 98/early XP era for usability.

Printer drivers are not the same level of "it just works" as it is on Wondows. My Brother Printer's features weren't working with the default driver (scanner and double sided printing just didn't work), so I needed to install brother drivers from their website which required sudo access.

Installing packages, and software updates also require sudo permissions. Which means to keep a password nearby or easy to remember which is hard when Windows never required it for the longest time.

Installing graphics drivers are hit or miss and requires some tinkering and research to get right. This is both for AMD and Nvidia. Open-CL is the roadblock I ran into specifically for AMD, and installing the drivers outright for Nvidia on Fedora.

For those who I am thinking of, their tech literacy is good enough to remember how to open a web browser, and find their emails. But they can't even remember what the password is for their WiFi, so having to enter passwords daily for their machine is a massive ask, let along trying to keep the software updated and maintained. Especially when they buy new hardware and I am not around to make sure that it works. As much as I don't like Microsoft and Apple, when you buy a new printer, or install new software, most users can work it out on their own. Linux doesn't feel as streamlined or supported in this regard, at least for now.


With that said, compared to where Linux was not to long ago, I would say that the OS is 80-90% new user friendly, but requires as much tinkering as a Bethesda game needs to get it usable. Good for a teenager trying to play games on a budget, or a kid who wants to tinker, but for those who just want to use their iPhone and not think about anything else, it's too much of a learning curve.

I am keeping an eye on the Immutable OS's like Fedora Silverblue and Kinote, as Flatpak updating solves most of these issues and Fedora specifically removes the issue of system updates requiring sudo access. But until a Linux distro hits ease of use parity as Windows 7 or 10, I'll just keep recommending Macbooks if they need new machines.

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Arancello 16 points 3 days ago

what does this even mean?

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bizarroland 43 points 3 days ago

Apparently, Microsoft is allowing you to use your Google Gmail account to sign in to Edge instead of a Microsoft account, and they are "considering" removing the forced Microsoft account requirement when signing into Windows 11 to set up the computer to begin with.

Big fucking whoop, but still.

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toofpic -10 points 3 days ago

It would be an ok question if the post wasn't an article link. Go read it.

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bizarroland 13 points 3 days ago

There's literally no reason or justification whatsoever to be a jerk about things.

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tomiant 2 points 3 days ago
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toofpic -8 points 3 days ago

I offered you to read the article because this is what people do. And if you don't want to read the article, don't ask other people to chew the information up for you.

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TediousTasks 6 points 3 days ago

Is this not a place for conversation? Or do you use these spaces to show what a pretentious dipshit you are?

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hemmes 3 points 3 days ago

It’s okay, you can ask me anything you like about the article, everybody!

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Zachariah 6 points 3 days ago

I’m not going to click some random link posted by someone who doesn’t even bother to utilize the description field when posting.

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adarza 11 points 3 days ago

i'll believe it when i see it. but knowing microsoft, they're just looking for a 'better' (for them) way to uniquely id someone and hoover their life and data.

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frtzngbllr 8 points 3 days ago

Fuck them. Already switched to Nobara.

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sanitation 7 points 3 days ago

Bing. Out of all chrome wrappers, this is probably the worst. Takes the longest to debloat.

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macaw_dean_settle 7 points 3 days ago

Now what about killing gmail and icloud account requirement for their phones?

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SitD 2 points a day ago

they work so hard to make a product that can rival windows vista. i wonder when they will move past it and surpass what we had 20 years ago 😴

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