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mochi 69 points 3 years ago

It's more fun to publicly comment on, mock, shame, and laugh about a bunch of idiots that died doing something stupid than reflect on the driving forces behind a boat with 700 people on it capsizing in the Mediterranean.

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maporita 21 points 3 years ago

It's a result of compassion fatigue. When the first dead migrant children washed up on the Greek coast on people were appalled and transfixed. But the next month there were more dead bodies, and then more. Eventually people stop caring.

I'm old enough to remember "Live Aid". When Bob Geldof got up on stage and said we were going to end world hunger people really believed it was possible. Since then there have been dozens more famines in Ethiopia, and the deaths run to the tens of millions. And now no-one mentions them.

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Hellsadvocate 9 points 3 years ago

Only things that entertain us are things we care about. As the world's sorrows and tragedies grow by the day, everything from climate change to mass shootings of toddlers, we're numb. The one thing that helped is that it was rich people, we all (except republicans apparently) want to eat the rich, and these guys said sure we'll just go drown, they're pretty much allies. Gotta celebrate that.

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GarbageShootAlt2 4 points 3 years ago

we all (except republicans apparently) want to eat the rich

The dude in the headline sure seems upset about the "eat the rich" attitude, and however hard it is to see a practical difference, I am pretty sure he is not one of those Republican ghouls you are referring to. Perhaps you should reconsider how narrow the circle you are drawing is.

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Cosmic_Frog 31 points 3 years ago

Who is this Obama dude? The only Obama I know used to bomb civilians, so this must be some other guy

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authed 8 points 3 years ago

he the drone pro... even droned a wedding

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aidnic 6 points 3 years ago

I think that is the same dude iirc.

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Ragnell 27 points 3 years ago

Interesting. A lot of people joking around really don't know anyone or have any connections or money to put behind migrant rescue. But then, people criticizing the rhetoric usually don't have such resources either.

It is good that he's using his platform to call attention to this, and I'm glad he seems to have evolved his stance on immigrants. However, I would hope a former US President who's Vice President is now President would have made a few phone calls about this before yelling at the layman.

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GarbageShootAlt2 7 points 3 years ago

He hasn't "evolved his stance on immigrants," that's pure wishful thinking. He's a rich asshole who's always been principally interested in defending the rich and wagging his finger at people who are too mean to his corporate masters.

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queermunist 2 points 3 years ago

He's from the liberal camp that doesn't believe in politics.

The President is a celebrity figurehead that sells his moneyed backers' ideas to the public. That's it.

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MiddleWeigh 2 points 3 years ago

It kinda seems convenient to me ngl. What a big machine that needs to be dismantled first to save a few souls. It's pathetic tbh

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Buba 1 point 3 years ago

Well, tbh, if I knew people who participate in people smuggling, I'd immediately shun them out of my life anyway.

It's not cool to smuggle people, mmhkay?

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exohuman 18 points 3 years ago

As he should call it out. The number of dead is wild in that migrant boat tragedy. 5 people are not better than 500.

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RichardBonham 4 points 3 years ago

Even if those 5 people happen to be uber-rich.

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GarbageShootAlt2 4 points 3 years ago

I think their richness factors in pretty significantly, actually -- both to how tragic their deaths are and whether or not Obama wants to jump to their defense shaming leftists for being "too radical".

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darkmugglet 10 points 3 years ago

Obama was talking to a Greek audience and called out that people were more interested in the Titan. Had he been speaking to a North American audience he would have likely called out the lack of attention on the Southern border. The reality is that Obama is speaking to the audience.

The other issue is that the Titan is overwhelmingly unique. And that makes it news worthy. Right or wrong, when something is common we stop paying attention. So the problem is not that we were interested in the Titan trajecty, but that we lost interest in the migrant crisis for Europe and the US. The problem is that for most, they don't know. The injustice is not in the fact that billionaires died, but that the uniqueness of how the billionaires died caught our attention.

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GarbageShootAlt2 9 points 3 years ago

Spare me when one of the countless butchers for the American Empire has something to say about "tragedy". Maybe take a few million from your endless funds for your Martha's Vineyard parties with dogshit celebrities and pitch in to help instead of giving us a lecture, you sanctimonious, neoliberal prick.

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PowerCrazy 6 points 3 years ago

Hey Obama, where are those migrants coming, from war-torn Syria? Did you happen to do anything in Syria while you were the commander-in-chief of the US Armed forces?

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trent 5 points 3 years ago

dang, I haven't seen Obama since the presidency, man is getting old :(

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AskThinkingTim 5 points 3 years ago

A Netflix documentary cannot be made from the refugees. There is nothing to dramatise unlike the sub case.

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GoldenDoge 1 point 3 years ago

Well you can dramatize their whole journey from war torn Syria and what happens on the boat so I disagree

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MiddleWeigh 3 points 3 years ago

Tbh, all these politicians can kick rocks imo. They don't know what it's like to be down here, and we aren't even down here down here. We're on the internet lol. I'm lucky and privileged af, and i had a shitty go of things. I can't even imagine being propped and puppeted by the machine of suffering and then to have the gall to say some shit like that, like I had some spiritual awakening. Nah. Fuck you, acting like you didn't already know the whole time Lol. I hope your grandchildren lead real fulfilling lives. Seriously I do.

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Jeef 2 points 3 years ago

It's kinda crazy

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sbv 1 point 3 years ago

I'm pretty sure it's the media/Twitter that's obsessed. None of my friend groups have mentioned the sub.

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Guy_Fieris_Hair 1 point 3 years ago

That's fucking rich. That many immigrants died every year at the Mexican border while he was president. While it was the lowest in the last 30 years, it's still shitty. Just because your less evil doesn't mean your good.

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Oldbaldy71 0 points 3 years ago

Economic migrants / illegal immigrants… fact!

Nobody forced them on the boat..and nobody wanted them to drown…

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Buba -1 points 3 years ago

Idiots drown. The technical term for it is called evolution.

It applies equally to gummyboat migrants and billionaire make-shift submarine passengers. One should not discriminate in their compassion for fools. We should be equally glad about them meeting their proper evolutionary fate.

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firebreathingbunny -34 points 3 years ago

People who die during the commission of a crime aren't sympathetic figures.

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ram 34 points 3 years ago

The right to seek refuge is protected by international law.

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firebreathingbunny -34 points 3 years ago

You seek refuge remotely, through the proper bureaucratic channels, and only go if you are granted refuge. You don't invade. The latter is a crime. This is non-negotiable.

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ram 15 points 3 years ago

#1 No, this "invasion" is what we call "asylum"

#2 Even if it weren't a legal right under international law (which it is), murder is bad, borders are bad, and depicting this as "invasion" tells me all I need to know about you.

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Buba 1 point 3 years ago

"Borders are bad"

Oh my god. 😂

Fucking crazy fools these days.

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firebreathingbunny -27 points 3 years ago

Violating a sovereign country's borders is by definition an invasion. I already stated the one and only legal way to seek refuge. There is no debate to be had here.

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AnonTwo 14 points 3 years ago

That is proven wrong so many times by history it's not even funny. That's just an uneducated take.

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