Signal Login: optional registration without a phone number will require a one-time payment

2 months ago by solbt to c/signal

shortwavesurfer 16 points 2 months ago

As long as I can pay it with Monero, sure.

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artyom 3 points 2 months ago

Looks like currently they only accept BTC, ETH and USDC.

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shortwavesurfer 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah, and all three of those are surveillance coins.

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yogthos 6 points 2 months ago

they're really not helping beat honeypot allegations with that

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artyom -1 points 2 months ago

How do you figure that? You realize the Silk Road ran on BTC?

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shortwavesurfer 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, and the person they accused of running it went to prison for 11 years because it was easy to trace what was going on.

It is not impossible to use Bitcoin anonymously. It is just extremely difficult to use it anonymously, and it is extremely, extremely easy to fuck up and de-anonymize yourself on accident. With a foot gun,

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pineapple 4 points 2 months ago

Stay anonymous! (must reveal personal information to do so)

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Steve 16 points 2 months ago

Makes sense. One of their concerns with removing phone number requirements, was it being too easy to create spam accounts. Having a phone number creates a hurdle and real cost. So they'd need something to duplicate that cost.

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Obamakitten 5 points 2 months ago

I hope we don't need to explain the insecurities in GPS and payment processors here

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whoiswrongwithyou 4 points 2 months ago

If I can do it with cash then hell yeah.

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avidamoeba 4 points 2 months ago

I'd expect a crypto option. After all one of the few decent use cases for it is paying for things you don't want your name attached to. E.g. VPN for downloading Linux ISOs.

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whoiswrongwithyou 7 points 2 months ago

It’s worth recognizing that almost no cryptocurrencies are anonymous.

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avidamoeba 0 points 2 months ago

For sure not anonymous in the sense that transactions are easy to trace. However they can be much more difficult to link to a name and address than standard payment transactions. Even if you bought BTC in the most convenient way possible - from some exchange using a credit card, subsequent BTC payment transactions do not carry your name and address but a randomly generated ID. The ID is attached to the VPN payment without your name and address. If someone wants to see who paid for that VPN, they have to compel the exchange company to give them your info for that ID. But then if you want to go invisible, you'd get BTC for cash from a local ATM without showing your face. From that point on, the BTC ID attached to your payments leads to nothing.

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whoiswrongwithyou 1 point 2 months ago

On the off chance that you have a background in computers: what’s the difference between an address and a pointer to some address?

For the purposes of reaching the address, there isn’t one.

The blockchain is an immutable distributed ledger of all transactions conducted on it. A ledger is a record including the recipient and source.

People can just look on the blockchain and see that the numerical id goes to the wallet you filled using a credit card.

If at any point a transaction gets tied to your identity now every transaction conducted with that wallet or any ids associated with it is tied to your identity.

There are myriad ways to tie a transaction to a persons identity.

Consider instead cash. There is no immutable ledger. A person investigating cash transactions would have to do significantly more legwork to find out when and where you were at some place, what was purchased and gather evidence and wrangle witnesses in a way that would preclude them from simply not cooperating with the investigation.

It is much more difficult to investigate cash transactions than those conducted with crypto.

It is much easier to conduct cash transactions in a way that protects your identity than it is with crypto.

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sensation 2 points 2 months ago

Why would one use a VPN to download linux distros?

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n7gifmdn 2 points 2 months ago

You should use a VPN for everything

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pineapple 2 points 2 months ago path: 0 25177739 25177793 25181688 25185635, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
sensation 1 point 2 months ago

Thank you. I had not heard that euphemism before.

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avidamoeba 4 points 2 months ago

What's aboutsignal.com?

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whoiswrongwithyou 14 points 2 months ago

Not much, what’s aboutsignal.com with you?

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MonaySimpson 4 points 2 months ago path: 0 25177680 25182941, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0

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