Alternative to LinkedIn in EU? It seems they are now forcing you to give them your ID.

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GreatDane 65 points 7 days ago

I am still 99,99% sure that Europe, Canada, Australia etc. will find alternatives to most things. Everything from LinkedIn to Facebook.

We can't trust the US anymore. They are a threat to democracy.

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WhatAmLemmy 33 points 7 days ago

Don't kid yourself like most "Classical Liberals". Europe, Canada, and Australia are nearly as compromised by a fascist oligarchy. Their politicians are just better at virtue signaling because the populations are more educated and pro socialistic-programs.

https://michaelwest.com.au/...

Why do you think all Western "democracies" still support Israel despite a significant majority of their populations opposing Israel?

Why do you think all our secret police are continuing to implement mass surveillance and embed fascist tech into the fabric of our societies (Palantir, NSO Group, etc)?

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raspberriesareyummy 5 points 7 days ago

Nearly but not quite, and mostly due to big tech meddling, most of which comes from Magastan.

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WhatAmLemmy 5 points 7 days ago

"tech meddling" is an aggressive minimization that makes it sound innocent. The vast majority of the political class on earth have been pre-financed and pre-selected by the wealthiest criminals, rapists, pedophiles and thieves of society — promoted through their media — and their actions reflect the interests of that minority. The baseline is corrupt, and does not give a shit about "democracy"; only wealth and power.

Again, why the support for Israel against "the will of the people"? Why continue using American or Israeli tech companies despite direct threats to your "stated" personal and national values? To your democracy and sovereignty? Why even entertain backdoors that weaken national and domestic security like chat control? Why continue using closed foreign platforms owned by fascists?

How would you feel if Nazi Germany had a tracking device in your pocket, car, workplace? Every high traffic public place? In your own home pet cams and doorbell? In all of your transport options, public or private? Monitoring all your financial transactions, emails, and communications? and your government requires you to buy nazi tech for you to use basic government services and simply live your day to day life? Your government stores all of your data in nazi data centers?

If you understand history at all, you should understand that what the majority consider acceptable is currently at a mentally-ill level of ignorance and indoctrination.

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raspberriesareyummy 1 point 7 days ago

You're barking up the wrong tree. Have a look at my comment history if you will. What I am saying is that cutting Europe off from Magastan-based services is a net good, because the corruption in our system originates in large parts from - as you say yourself - the wealthiest criminals etc - most of which are acting via Magastan corporations.

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architect 1 point 7 days ago

Nah those billionaires come from all over and buy land all over. Why does new zealand allow so many of those billionaires in, then? So many of these people aren’t American! They just come here like foreign invaders to sell us fake fucking news and “space ships” while they steal our elections!

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cosmos8188 3 points 7 days ago

The fact Australia on its own passed a fascist law on totalitarian control on the premise of "child protection" (which also includes teenagers) should be quite evident that it isnt a friendly.

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architect 1 point 7 days ago

Yes thank you!

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maam 9 points 7 days ago

We need to reinforce Greenland!

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GreatDane 2 points 7 days ago

We're working on it... ;)

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kyub 31 points 7 days ago

Just leave the proprietary platforms. Delete all your accounts. Cold turkey. I don't miss any of this crap that constantly gets worse as well. In fact your life will probably be better because there are overall less things you need to take care of. It's liberating.

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PromKingJosh 23 points 7 days ago

I deleted my account months ago
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maam 6 points 7 days ago

Rimu doesn’t like Pepe lol

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eneff 1 point 3 days ago

the fuck is a rimu and why would one care

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LeTak 17 points 7 days ago

XING if you want something in EU and still be somehow visible.

For Federation https://vutuv.de/

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lmuel 6 points 7 days ago

Vutuv looks kinda sloppy tbh

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LeFrog 6 points 7 days ago

okay after digging through the repo, I also would say that it is heavily AI assisted. E.g. this Pull Request (which is the first one I opened randomly) seems like 90%+ AI:

https://github.com/wintermeyer/vutuv/pull/1434

I speak German and the PR text is just strange AI slop text. It reads like a Google Translate text from 2009 and is overly verbose.

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nasi_goreng 5 points 7 days ago

That UI is just like a common web framework, which heavily trained by AI.

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LeFrog 4 points 7 days ago

They seem to use Claude Code, but the page itself does look like standard framework to me. But tbh I don't know.

you can take a look at their source here: https://github.com/wintermeyer/vutuv

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lmuel 4 points 7 days ago

The GitHub is what I mostly based my assumption on… seems very reliant on LLMs to me. Can’t say for sure obviously, I’m sure some humans just write this way. But most don’t.

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LeFrog 2 points 7 days ago

yes I fully agree

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0x0 1 point 7 days ago

Xing is very Germany-focused though.

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maam 15 points 7 days ago

Everyone should make account deletion requests quickly!

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ryper 3 points 7 days ago

But can you do that without providing ID?

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affenlehrer 15 points 7 days ago

Xing.com is German

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I_Has_A_Hat 15 points 7 days ago

Lemmy is not going to like this but... Depending on your career and if you are looking to change jobs, you might just want to bite the bullet.

As much as people rightfully hate it, LinkedIn is THE platform for jobs in certain industries. You can make this your hill to die on, just be aware that there may be no real alternatives, and you may find yourself alone without a life raft.

It's like being against WhatsApp in South America. That's great for you, but 90% of people and businesses use that as their method of communication, often as the ONLY method of communication.

You're gonna have to weigh for yourself if it's worth it or not.

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PokerChips 2 points 7 days ago

So just give up?

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I_Has_A_Hat 3 points 7 days ago

Look, you can hate pants. Despise them. Proudly state that society is dumb for embracing them and adamantly refuse to wear them. That is your right. You can make that choice. You will be going against the grain and against societal expectations and will likely run into difficulties and challenges that people who just decide to go ahead and wear pants wont face, but that is your choice to make.

If you are in a position in life that you can say "fuck you"! Then more power to you. But if you are job hunting, or think you will be in the future, well... Again, you don't HAVE to, but things will be significantly harder for you if you don't. Yes it sucks. Yes it's unfair. But it's not something most people can feasibly do anything about.

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Dyskolos 2 points 5 days ago

And as long as there are people, who willingly gulp down every us-american surveillance and privacy-killing endeavors, nothing will ever change. Glory to the holy empire just because I want one of those jobs? How pathetic, sorry.

With that pragmatism one could really justify everything. If only the majority does it too, or is just oblivious and/or ignorant of the underlaying problems.

As you said, the same reasons why this fucking abomination called WhatsApp still exists.

No thanks, I prefer being able to stand my reflection in a mirror. Because knowledge of an evil, while also participating in it, makes me complicit.

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WeavingSpider 6 points 7 days ago

Don't use linkedin myself, but iirc I saw that Fediverse has an alt for that. I think it was vutuv?

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Tollana1234567 1 point 7 days ago
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WeavingSpider 1 point 7 days ago

I did say I only saw that it exists, not how it works.

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Anarki_ 6 points 7 days ago

Looks like your account is permanently restricted (if you do not give them your ID).

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Kjell 2 points 7 days ago

So it is not possible to delete my account without giving them my ID?

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Nyvios 2 points 7 days ago

Yep, my acct has been held hostage with this bs for months now. You won't get anywhere with their support, because they will not treat you as it's owner

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Kjell 1 point 7 days ago

I was able to log in with my password and didn't need any ID, but I deleted the account so I will not end up in your situation. I have deleted several old accounts during the summer, so this was just one more account that is now deleted.

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Dyskolos 1 point 5 days ago

Well, it's a us-american company. You get what you paid for and had it coming.

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nightwatch_admin 4 points 7 days ago

You might give the fairly new Maindeck a try

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fakeman_pretendname 1 point 7 days ago

There's one called "Sifa.id", but I'm struggling to work my way through their marketing speak to work out what they actually do.

It sounds like it's loosely connected to the fediverse, except the Bluesky one, not the normal one.

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Peer -26 points 7 days ago

This is a security feature for account recovery, not data hoarding.

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maam 18 points 7 days ago

Corporate bootlicking.

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Nyvios 5 points 7 days ago

No, they randomly blocked my acct with this, suggesting malicious access. But i have mfa enabled and there is no sign of misuse. Good luck explaining that to them if they won't acknowledge you as the acct holder until you give your id and ALL it's details to Persona. Privacy and security my ass

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