Who wants to fuck with Elon Musk?

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Abyssian 23 points 6 days ago

Who wants to fuck with Elon Musk?

Kalshi odds are saying most people think Elon's hoping for the answer to be "children."

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ech 3 points 6 days ago

Who cares what a shitty gambling site "says"?

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5318008 -1 points 6 days ago

Well, it's the aggregated opinion of people who use the site. Kalshi doesn't set the price; people making the bets set the price based on the odds others are willing to accept.

There's a sampling bias for sure, but since the odds given for this bet are based on how much people are willing to pay for that bet, this gives a very good approximation for how people actually feel about something.

It actually ends up being more reliable than most opinion polls in that way.

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ech 2 points 5 days ago

Besides the fact they nobody knows what is being done behind the scenes to ensure results are (or aren't) fair, using a sample of individuals that are all attempting to play the system against each other deeply and irreparably biases the data.

On top of that, jokes like the one I responded to and comments like yours only serve to legitimize a "service" thats sole purpose is to squeeze every penny from its users. It doesn't provide anything beneficial to anyone but its owners.

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5318008 0 points 3 days ago

If the contract isn't something that meets the criteria for an efficient market, then yeah, it's not something that can be used to give reasonable probabilities.

But for something like, winner of the democratic presidential primary, or the proce of gold in a month... then it's genuinely a better predictive model than what a statistician would be able to come up with.

It doesn't provide anything beneficial to anyone but its owners.

For statistics purposes, it gives me something incredibly beneficial. Simply by knowing the price of a contract, I can know with decent accuracy how likely something is to happen.

If you're not in the field, you wouldn't necessarily appreciate how valuable that is.

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phutatorius 1 point 2 days ago

it’s genuinely a better predictive model than what a statistician would be able to come up with

OK, let's see the evidence for that assertion.

Simply by knowing the price of a contract, I can know with decent accuracy how likely something is to happen.

A retrospective analysis of the contract prices versus actual outcomes would also be needed. Otherwise, all you're seeing is an opinion poll conducted on a self-selected sample of people unusually prone to being greedheads. And you have no idea of the mechanisms that shape that market.

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5318008 1 point 2 days ago

OK, let's see the evidence for that assertion.

Using prediction markets to estimate the reproducibility of scientific research - PMC

There's one.

But obviously it's not a guarantee if you don't know what you're doing. We also have documentation on where these methods fall short, such as when it's based on exponential growth, rare events, or something else that humans are bad at understanding. Infectious Disease Forecasting.

But again, good statisticians are prepared to address those things.

And you have no idea of the mechanisms that shape that market.

That's even better. If I don't understand the mechanisms shaping the market, I won't be able to correctly identify predictive variables for my model. In that case, I would be better off trusting the prediction market.

Obviously it would be better if the person building the model understood the mechanisms... but that takes time and money. If you're managing 30 models, that might not be worth it.

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