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Kirk -4 points 4 days ago

I always laugh when people talk about the CIA as if it is a single person, and they try to establish a sense of character by mentioning things it did in the 50s, as if any of the people involved back the. were still involved today.

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thethrilloftime69 24 points 3 days ago

Yeah but the people from the 50s trained everyone who came after them. I'm actually reading a book about the Dulles brothers (who basically set CIA philosophy, ethos and hiring practices) and there's no way that the CIA isn't still using a lot of the same practices and setting the same goals.

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Kirk -18 points 3 days ago

Yep haha exactly like that, excellent satire, you absolutely nailed the tone of someone trying to distract from actual effective policy changes using conspiratorial language.

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thethrilloftime69 10 points 3 days ago

Lol good one bro you sound just like someone who just uses a bunch of words without actually understanding what they mean. It's not like you nor the OP mentioned anything about policy. And you definitely got a legitimate counterpoint about the character of the CIA that is relevant to understanding how the world works today. It's easy to dismiss claims about the CIA if you've never actually read anything about how they've operated for decades.

If you are interested in understanding why people make those claims about the CIA, I will suggest reading "The Brothers" by Stephen Kinzer or "The Jakarta Method" by Vincent Bevins. It's pretty sobering. I also highly recommend the podcast series "Blowback" particularly season 2. You know since I know it's important to someone like yourself to be educated on the stuff you talk about.

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Kirk -14 points 3 days ago

Sorry didn't realize you were a true believer™ let's try to remember we have the same goals even though it's for different reasons!

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2hundredpancakes 11 points 3 days ago

I don't know why you're working so hard to defend the same agency that cooked up operation paperclip and mkultra. Like those three letter agencies didn't do even more bonkers shit during the cold war in the name of defending capitalism. Like they haven't declassified documents admitting to it. But uh, go off or whatever.

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Kirk -4 points 3 days ago

Ok this one HAS to be satire you are nailing it

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2hundredpancakes 3 points 3 days ago

Mind telling me about these "actual effective policy changes" you mentioned?

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