We should make a song contest where artist(s) from each instance sings/plays a song, like Eurovision (I am aware of Lemmyvision's existence)

15 hours ago by yogurtwrong to c/fediverse

I'd like to call it Fedivision.

I know Lemmyvision exists and it is awesome but it focuses on country instances, whereas Fedivision would be about the fediverse as a whole and would see each instance as a potential contestant. Lemmy, mastodon, misskey, pixelfed you name it.

And yes, unlike Lemmyvision, Fedivision will be about people singing, composing, mixing (sometimes bad) songs, not submissions of songs from original artists. Contestants will be able to sing or play an existing song or submit something they cooked themselves.

I feel like this approach is more compatible with Fediverse in general, as all instances already act like a country: they have their own culture, people, and "laws". Fedivision will be about the culture of each instance instead of countries.

I want to make it a reality, I need help and feedback from y'all. I am not really an artist in any way, so it would be really cool if somebody cooked a poster.

Do you think this is feasible? What would you like to add? Let me know.

one_old_coder 9 points 15 hours ago

Feasible? I don't know. But Lemmy/Piefed users singing and playing songs (or even old Eurovision songs) for fun is something that I would enjoy. I already picture a bunch of Star Trek nerds singing ABBA songs...

Put everything on PeerTube and we'll be famous.

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oce 6 points 15 hours ago

Sounds cool. Maybe only allowing OC is cooler and could avoid some legal troubles for the instances that care about those.
What about the platform to host the media, do we have something convenient enough?

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yogurtwrong 5 points 15 hours ago

Maybe only allowing OC

May happen if we have copyright problems, but somebody else singing a song is usually fine considering the amount of covers on YouTube.

What about the platform to host the media

Another user suggested PeerTube. I will build a simple web page with submissions from each year put together in a nice way via embedded PeerTube players.

We could backup the videos to several instances, offer archival downloads, but the internet will probably do its thing and back it up thousands of times as soon as we upload anyways.

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oce 4 points 15 hours ago

Is PeerTube working well now? I remembered the videos never loading, but it was maybe two years ago.

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yogurtwrong 5 points 14 hours ago

It does work good enough, but we can do simple HTML 5 video as a fallback. If we compress the videos for playback and provide a zip for full quality videos, I'm sure a 10 gigabit server can handle the load. Video hosting is really not a problem we can't solve.

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unknownuserunknownlocation 4 points 12 hours ago

somebody else singing a song is usually fine considering the amount of covers on YouTube

Just because it's on YouTube doesn't mean it's safe to do. YouTube has a whole range of agreements with different record companies so that in many cases copyrighted music will be used, but YouTube's contentID (I think that's what it's called?) system IDs it and reroutes the ad revenue to the "appropriate" record company.

IANAL, but I do know that compositions can be and do get copyrighted - see the avril Lavigne vs Rubinos case, where the allegation was that Avril Lavigne's song "Girlfriend" sounded too similar to one of the Rubino's songs. The case was, unfortunately for us, settled behind closed doors, but it goes to show how far copyright law can go. Which, TBH, is disappointing, because on the whole, I like the idea, but well, copyright ruins a number of things.

As to the state of Peertube, I've not run into any problems. I've mostly watched videos that The Linux experiment uploads himself to Peertube, but that has been pretty flawless recently. And especially in a case like this, which could potentially generate a significant amount of traffic, I don't see why it wouldn't work from a technical standpoint - more peers generally means those kind of P2P systems work better.

What I do worry about with Peertube is the whole copyright situation (again, copyright ruins everything). Since you're reuploading what you're watching to others, if copyrighted content were to be uploaded (which can happen very quickly in a music contest), it could potentially be open season for copyright trolls.

I don't want to be a downer, I honestly hate the way copyright ruins this stuff. But I think it's important to keep in the back of your mind in order to avoid it turning into more headaches than fun.

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yogurtwrong 5 points 9 hours ago

@django@discuss.tchncs.de in the comment section pointed out that fedivision already happened in the past. It seems like fedivision worked fine with fully original content so I might just make the contest about original songs to save on copyright headache. I'll probably just call it a continuation of fedivision with the same name.

Regarding the Avril Lavigne lawsuit, it happened during the times when music industry was particularly being assholes, but I get what you mean: we can never guess how far billionaire protection ahem copyright laws can go.

django @discuss.tchncs.de

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lambalicious 5 points 12 hours ago

Doesn't need to be OC-only for that. Can also allow CC0 or any CC-like license adequate for the purpose (can't be Non-Derivative, for one) or any publicly referable license that explicitly grants remix.

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oce 1 point 6 hours ago

Good point

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arindam01 2 points 10 hours ago

How about using Loops.video?

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hendrik 5 points 10 hours ago

Awesome. Hope this happens. Just make up some clear guidelines on what to expect. Like video, or audio only. Singing, playing instruments, maybe the shittyflute... C64 SID music... maybe include a statement on generative AI.

And better coordinate with other events. Shouldn't clash with Canvas, The Button, Lemmyvision...

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dontbelievethis 3 points 14 hours ago

Just one artist?

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itsAsin 2 points 2 hours ago

interesting idea. i have a degree in Songwriting from Berklee College of Music (2001). i would be a participant as well as a volunteer judge, if your vision should come to pass.

feel free to DM me.

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django 1 point 11 hours ago

Fedivision happened several times in the past: https://web.archive.org/...

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