good thing bitcoin is anonymous and donating to Ukraine is a use case

2 months ago by David Gerard to c/buttcoin

Binance reportedly handed Russian investigators data on IT specialist Yuri Belenky, who donated around $700 in crypto to Ukraine’s military while living in the EU. The information was later used as evidence in a Russian “terrorism financing” case against him.

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Binance reportedly handed Russian investigators data on IT specialist Yuri Belenky, who donated around $700 in crypto to Ukraine’s military while living in the EU.

The information was later used as evidence in a Russian “terrorism financing” case against him.

BCsven 20 points 2 months ago

Why people ever thought crypto is anonymous when it has an accurate transaction ledger that is verified by multiple nodes, is beyond me.

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bignose 8 points 2 months ago

A decade ago, when I was Talking About Cryptocurrency (approving), in presentations etc., this was indeed a very frequent assumption of my audience. They would be confused and/or shocked when I referred to earlier in the presentation to show that no, every transaction on the blockchain is visible to everyone, forever, otherwise it can't even work.

I suspect a lot of the shocked response was due to the (unspoken) follow up question “then what the heck is the point of this, why would I use this?”

But I can see why the assumption comes along. Cryptography is all about secret, obscured communication; why wouldn't cryptocurrency be about secret money transactions?

At least now we can Talk About Cryptocurrency (derogatory) and dispel that assumption, where we can.

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gedfromgont 5 points 2 months ago

Isn't it more of an "obfuscation" thing? Maybe not anonymous but if you don't know who the owner of a certain wallet is that has a transaction visible, then what use is that information for you? Or do you have to register wallets somewhere, I haven't looked into this for like a decade or longer and I faintly remember not having to provide anything for a wallet.

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it_wasnt_arson 8 points 2 months ago

You don't have to provide anything to make a wallet, but you do have to give banking details to whomever you buy the tokens from, and as of the boom a few years ago, any exchanges that don't want to be cut off from the global banking system will be as thorough about verifying and retaining data about your identity as any other regulated bank. Proper obfuscation would require something like buying Bitcoin for cash on the street and doing some prosecutable money laundering for good measure.

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gerikson 6 points 2 months ago

that was the standard retort to "BTC isn't anonymous" back in the day - just find someone on "Local Bitcoins" and pay a 20% surcharge to get coins from a dude on a street corner

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Soyweiser 5 points 2 months ago

Cryptography is all about secret, obscured communication

Cryptography can be about those things, but people who know about the field also know it can do a lot more like for example help with non-repudiation.

(Sorry having higher edu flashbacks about the wonders of cryptography)

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breadsmasher 2 points 2 months ago

when you funnel your “anonymous” currency via a centralised entity, what do you expect? absolute clowns.

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