After people reacted so positively to the banner I made I had the idea to do the same with c/anarchism. But what to draw? Well I took the existing image and traced over it, adding some more character.
License (as always): CC-0, no rights reserved. Especially since it's traced over a generated image.
Did your last line betray your use of AI?
I haven't used any AI. This is traced over the https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/anarchism banner. That banner was generated, like most db0's comms.
But I have wondered about doing this to images generated myself. I think it's an interesting counter-argument to the "AI" hardliners. If I claim no ownership of the generated output or even my own work based on that output is it still stealing? And if the image was generated in a climate-friendly manner, like through AI Horde or Ecosia, is it still problematic?
This is traced over the https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/anarchism banner. That banner was generated, like most db0's comms.
I think there's something kinda poetic about this. Like if we adopt your banner, it shows that we're not repudiating the old banner or the people who made it, but that we are adapting to the needs of our time. And it's really pretty too 
If I claim no ownership of the generated output or even my own work based on that output is it still stealing?
No such thing as 'stealing' when it comes to generative AI output. AI output cannot be copyrighted at all. It's all free for the taking.
No such thing as âstealingâ when it comes to generative AI output Copying digital assets.
Fixed it for you. Copyright violations are not stealing. That includes creating unauthorized derivative works.
For generative AI it's even more meaningless because it can't be copyrighted.
If I steal a bunch of handmade jewelry, cut it up and fuse it all together into a sculpture, then give that sculpture away, it's still theft. If the recipient knows it was made with stolen jewelry, that makes them an accomplice.
Just because GenAI output can't be copyrighted doesn't mean its output isn't still theft.
This is a really dumb analogy because if you steal a bunch of jewelry, then the jewelry is gone and the original owner doesn't have it anymore.
But if you steal AI 'art', the original owner still has it.
There's a difference between stealing and copying, and that difference is whether you're depriving the original owner of the thing.
And from a whole different angle:
'Stealing' implies ownership. But the original 'owner' doesn't actually own the output of AI in the first place. It wasn't "handmade" -- it was made by a computer algorithm. You can't steal from someone who doesn't own the objects in the first place.
Copying is not theft:
Gotcha. Image doesn't load on Boost so couldn't tell. I think there's no problem but we can't be too careful atm imo.
And if the image was generated in a climate-friendly manner, like through AI Horde or Ecosia, is it still problematic?
Yes, because unless the model was trained with properly licensed artwork (and virtually none of them are), it was built upon stolen art. Doesn't matter if it's somehow used ethically after that, the core algorithms were created unethically.
On top of that, GenAI use in its current form directly or indirectly supports billionaires and their goals, either by boosting their usage numbers for investors, boosting usage so that they decide to buy up production capacity for literal years, or just generally normalizing usage to regular people who are ignorant of the issues or (worse) supportive of the billionaire class.
Yes, because unless the model was trained with properly licensed artwork (and virtually none of them are), it was built upon stolen art. Doesnât matter if itâs somehow used ethically after that, the core algorithms were created unethically.
You realize the copyright system you're defending was created for the purpose of benefiting those billionaires right? Do you think artists want copyright to last longer than they are alive and then some? Also do you think all the so-called "mom and pop artists" can afford to fight for their copyright in court if some chud decides to scoff at the law?
Stop parroting liberal garbage. We're not buying it. The only thing you've succeeded at here is making an idiot of yourself.
You realize the copyright system you're defending was created for the purpose of benefiting those billionaires right?
Yes. Amazing you think I'm defending copyright and not artists' livelihoods under a capitalist system. Copyright is certainly broken, but we do not have socialism or better. The artists do not benefit from people behaving as if capitalism isn't still the defacto machine abusing us all.
If what I've said can be construed as defense of copyright, it's only because artists do not have an alternative, and stealing from them keeps them poor (a distinctly capitalist endeavor, so hilarious coming from you all). What have you proposed except, "Hur dur, yew sownd like librul."
Stop parroting liberal garbage. We're not buying it. The only thing you've succeeded at here is making an idiot of yourself.
Lmao stop acting like you care about the big bad capitalists. You're just as bad as they are by doing the exact same things they do. Enjoy your privilege.
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Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.
This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.
Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Absolutely no right-wing jokes. This includes "Anarcho"-Capitalist concepts.
Absolutely no redfash jokes. This includes anything that props up the capitalist ruling classes pretending to be communists.
No bigotry whatsoever. See instance rules.
This is an anarchist comm. You don't have to be an anarchist to post, but you should at least understand what anarchism actually is. We're not here to educate you.
No shaming people for being anti-electoralism. This should be obvious from the above point but apparently we need to make it obvious to the turbolibs who can't control themselves. You have the rest of lemmy to moralize.
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Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.
Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.
This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.
Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
If you post images with text, endeavour to provide the alt-text
If the image is a crosspost from an OP, Provide the source.
Absolutely no right-wing jokes. This includes "Anarcho"-Capitalist concepts.
Absolutely no redfash jokes. This includes anything that props up the capitalist ruling classes pretending to be communists.
No bigotry whatsoever. See instance rules.
This is an anarchist comm. You don't have to be an anarchist to post, but you should at least understand what anarchism actually is. We're not here to educate you.
No shaming people for being anti-electoralism. This should be obvious from the above point but apparently we need to make it obvious to the turbolibs who can't control themselves. You have the rest of lemmy to moralize.
Join the matrix room for some real-time discussion.
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