He was talking to Google, not you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

There’s also a “royal you” which is when you refer to the general populace or an object with ‘you’ like I did in this sentence. Or, like they did in theirs

uh, hi, google..?

No, u

He didn't mean you. He's just not good with words.

in the case of the apps my company do, there is a high volume of people in my country that use that app thus its very likely that peeps are leaving reviews.

I have a Motorola I probably need to do this to, especially if Google is about to lock down against using F-Droid and stuff.

What a huge freaking inconvenience. When am I gonna find the time?

But I'm hoping there's builds for something that will just work and not be like "Oh BTW the camera doesn't work." It seems a lot harder to find alternate ROMs these days if you're not on a Samsung or Pixel.

It's gotten so complicated too because they keep adding more and more anti-user layers. I like messing with stuff but I don't want to be forced to hack my daily driver! Ugh.

Different countries have different systems. In Sweden, our "banking app" is not really for doing bank tasks, it's everywhere in society as a 2FA app. Buying a bus ticket, booking a medical appointment, paying bills, logging in to various government and non-government web sites, signing a contract, etc. They all use the banking 2FA app. It's really really difficult to have a normal life without this app.

Unfortunately, at least in my country, it's getting harder and harder to do banking through a plain old webbrowser. Apps are being pushed hard and afaik all of them use the Google Lock-In API in their Android app. Alternatively I could switch to iPhone, but having had the displeasure of experiencing their crappy hardware and even worse service I'd rather cut my balls off than ever dealing with Apple again.

Many banks nowadays at least try hard to push you to use some kind of app method to verify transactions, in place of other TAN methods. Though my main bank still lets me use an old-fashioned chip-TAN device, not all banks would do that.

I'm on Graphene OS, and luckily all my other banking apps work on there. I've got them isolated in another user profile, seperated from my daily use apps, so only the banking profile gets Google Play services enabled.

One of the two banks I use forces you to use their app for 2FA. I despise this practice but I'm also way too lazy to close those accounts. Luckily Scotiabank app doesn't use Play Integrity or whatever and works on GrapheneOS. The other bank I just use web browser yep.

For most other stuff MicroG works. It's still google but at arms length. I use it for Youtube Morphe modded adblock/sponsorblock app and stuff like that.

And that's what we need more of, not appification.

The app is so much more convenient, but it's something I'm wiling to sacrifice to avoid Google.

What?

GrapheneOS does that on per-app basis I guess as part of the sandbox not sure

That is an OS thing and not inside play services

Try using the backup tool. Save the backup on an external storage. Relock the bootloader, restore the data.

Not sure it will restore 100% of the data, but it can help.

Yeah, it's best to re-lock right after the installation. that's the stuff you need to research before you install a new OS... :/

Pretty sure calyx doesn't use google stuff so it should be fine, I presumably don't have it and don't want it.