Discussion Thread ๐ŸŒž Monday 14 September 2026

a month ago by YarraByte to c/melbourne

Alamutjones 13 points a month ago

My heart hurts.

Iโ€™m not angry. I was never angry. Iโ€™m justโ€ฆso sad. I wish I had understood.

This whole time Iโ€™ve been terrified of making a mistake and locking myself into a mortgage on an apartment that wasnโ€™t the right one - I intended for this to be my home for the rest of my life, or at least for the next twenty years. I was so stressed about the possibility of picking wrong, and turns out I made a huge mistake right from the first because I hadnโ€™t understood the nature of the agreement or hence the search.

I donโ€™t know exactly what would be different if I HAD understood, but Iโ€™d have set my hopes somewhere different and not be grieving them now

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Thornburywitch 7 points a month ago

My personal view is that some rage is entirely justified in this situation. My view only, but I think you were misled, possibly accidentally, but still misled. I also think that your family suffered a rush of blood to their collective heads when the process started, and their expectations altered in consequence as they realised all the various possibilities available. But imo they are primarily thinking of their own needs/wants, and I think yours got lost along the way.

Now, however, you are in receipt of much more accurate information and can go forward armed with that.

I do think that your family needs to consider whether or not they actually need to buy a dedicated apartment for their own use. One that has nothing to do with you and which fits their needs perfectly. You can even help them search for it. You can still offer hospitality as and when required if that suits you, but if they are going to be that picky about the space they need then they need to understand the consequences and costs - to you as well as them.

Your needs come first here. After all, you are going to be living in the space full time and your needs should be the priority imo.

This might be a bit cheeky, but you could ask if they will let you have a locked room, for your own exclusive use, at their house in Mornington. Because I bet they will refuse because 'it's their house'. This might bring home to them exactly what they are asking you for.

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Alamutjones 6 points a month ago

I will never be able to afford the kind of home I want.

That was the appeal of it for me. The extra money meant I could stretch to "a comfortable apartment" rather than "a student shitbox with no kitchen or natural light"

I thought provision and use of a guest room was a fair exchange for being able to buy and live in something nicer. So I agreed...

...but it's not a guest room.

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Alamutjones 4 points a month ago

They have a guest room which I use.

My understanding of what I was providing them came largely from what they provide me - the guest room they set up has their art on the walls and a few useful items (a small ladder etc) in the wardrobe, which is about the level of use I imagined.

I imagined some bookshelves and a chair in one corner so I could sit in there and read if they weren't staying. Maybe a picture hanging. That's all.

I didn't want to LIVE in it. I'd have a perfectly good bedroom and bathroom of my own. I just want to be able to put some of my more neutral belongings in it, so the space isn't completely useless to me when they're not present to use it.

Apparently that was not the agreement. I was explicitly told "it's not a guest room. We don't want your art or your books in our space"

That is quite different to what I understood the situation to be.

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Thornburywitch 8 points a month ago

If they want a space that's theirs and theirs alone, they should be purchasing that - and not expecting you to be part of that arrangement. Are they going to share 'their' space with your sister and her kids?????? Because if so, then they are lying to themselves about the space being their space only. And the cleanliness argument falls apart when kids are involved - trust me on this.

If they only need a dedicated space occasionally, then this is what specialist medical AirBNB is for. Sort of Ronald McDonald House, but the adult version. Yes, this is available.

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StudChud 6 points a month ago

Oh I'm so mad for you, your parents did you dirty on this. I'm so sorry, Alamut, you deserve better ๐Ÿ’œ

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Alamutjones 3 points a month ago

It's my fault. I didn't understand the offer, but assumed I knew.

That's on me

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SituationCake 6 points a month ago

No itโ€™s absolutely not. Their conditions werenโ€™t communicated. How were you to know? Please donโ€™t feel like this is your fault.

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StudChud 5 points a month ago

No. They should have explained it better, but regardless it's a dumb fucking stipulation that is being used to control your actions. Do not ever blame yourself for them not explaining their expectations. They offered to "help", they ought to have made it clear what they expected in return; which isn't help but a transaction.

You're not to blame for expecting to be able to utilise the entire home considering you'll be living in it 24/7 for 20+ years. They're to blame for expecting you to have a hotel room for them, but not be able to clean or maintain that space for yourself or for them. It's a stupid stipulation, and they're stupid and disrespectful for making it a transaction under the guise of generosity. It isn't generous or kind to expect something that fucked up in return.

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SpinMeAround 1 point a month ago

This is not your fault. This is not your fault. This is not your fault. Without clear communication, you could never have known.

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CEOofmyhouse56 5 points a month ago

What you need to do is put you first. Your needs come first. Your accessibility comes first. Your comfort comes first. Be strong. We love you. โค๏ธ

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Alamutjones 5 points a month ago

The only stuff I can afford on a revised budget without their help is shitty student dogboxes, smaller and darker than I have now.

I need to move. My neighbours are unhinged. But I can't afford to do it.

What am I going to do?

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CEOofmyhouse56 4 points a month ago

What I would do is take the money from my parents, find an apartment that suited me, get my siblings on board and sell it to my parents like a champion real estate agent. What a great location, it's safe, you'll love it here, we need to hurry on this because it's not raining apartments at the moment etc.

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Thornburywitch 2 points a month ago

Re-set, re-group and go forward. This you can do. If it's just you, then is the cbd an absolute must? Would something in WMelb or Docklands or even North Melbourne be sufficiently close/convenient for you? I understand that good pt is non-negotiable, as are lifts/accessibility. You might even like to look at Footscray or Kensington (which is a lot nicer than it used to be) as the pt is so good. Talk to @catfish about Maribyrnong. The new metro tunnel is a bit of a game changer re pt and I'm not sure it's effect has made it into real estate prices yet.

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SituationCake 4 points a month ago

There are many options within a 10 to 20min commute to the city. Have a look at train line suburbs, you get more distance for the same amount of transport time than tram or bus. And many of the inner areas have fantastic cafes, ammenities, street vibe etc. I honestly prefer the inner suburbs vibe compared to cbd vibe. But if thatโ€™s not your thing, then having an easy commute means you will still have great access. Renting elsewhere will hopefully solve the problem of dodgy neighbours, and give breathing time to figure out your next steps. If you find you absolutely hate being out of the cbd, then you can always move back.

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Alamutjones 3 points a month ago

West Melbourne and North Melbourne are areas I was already looking under the original plan - rhe most recent frontrunner for me when I thought I was doing a guest room was a two bedroom we'd viewed in West Melbourne. I'd be willing to live there. Happily so

I'd consider Docklands, but hadn't previously been looking there. The idea got nixed under the original plan because Docklands apartments tend to have quite small bedrooms (which didn't suit my parents). If it's just me, I may look again.

I work in the CBD (Spring St area) as well as currently living here, so I WOULD like to stay within the "can get into the centre quickly" kind of range. Being in the middle opens up a LOT of autonomy and independence for me. I like the area very much, I just don't like my current neighbours!

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Catfish 2 points a month ago

I would have been using the new tunnel at the old house for a 10 minute total commute, but not here unfortunately. Both tram routes are currently the high step sort, though that is to change very, very shortly. Bits of Maribyrnong are super hilly, bits are likely uninsurable against flooding. Kensington or WestMelb might be good if you stick near the 402 route. It's low floor and has at least 1 daily scooter user. Avoid the apartments at Foots Hopkins/whitehall. I ramble ...

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CadMunt 4 points a month ago

That sucks homie. Twice my mother has agreed to help me get into a place only to turn around and withdraw the offer.

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Seagoon_ 9 points a month ago

So the homeless guy is at the train station again. This time I spoke to him. Introduced myself as the neighbour, reassured him he is welcome to water, he needs water. Thanked him for watering my plants. Then asked if he needed help, told him about the facilities at the beach, asked if he had family. Offered money. He rejected all help. I told him that we are all part of society and that means caring and accepting help if needed. I can't help someone if they don't want help.

He has family , something is up if he doesn't want them.

he looked so rough, thin, unkempt, full of cuts and bruises, and I think he had pneumonia.

but I think it made him feel a bit better to be treated kindly and with respect

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CadMunt 8 points a month ago

I've know a few homesless guys and some of them are straight up unable to function as a regular member of society. Lovely people with good hearts but cannot handle a regular day to day life. Kind of you to reach out to him.

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Seagoon_ 7 points a month ago

we used to have a society where there was a place for people who couldn't cope and village life was simpler too

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PeelerSheila 7 points a month ago

Amen to that

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CadMunt 2 points a month ago

I just found out that an old friend who went homeless died recently at 41. I knew him when he was about 23. Great welder. Tried to sleep with me a few times which was kinda flattering, he was a gentleman about it. RIP Benny.

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Catfish 2 points a month ago
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StudChud 8 points a month ago

My job provider did something and got me an interview for tomorrow close-ish by, warehouse pick packer.

I'm just happy to have an interview, and this job can really help me with the rent increase starting this month.

Edit: thank you for the kind messages! Watch me slay tomorrow ๐Ÿ’…โœจ

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Catfish 5 points a month ago

Go kill it girl.

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PeelerSheila 5 points a month ago

๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ

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SpinMeAround 3 points a month ago

Get it, girl!

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CadMunt 3 points a month ago

I got a big bag of creatine in Springy if you need some.

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StudChud 2 points a month ago

Loooooooool I'll hit you up if I need it ๐Ÿ˜‚

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TheWitchofThornbury2 3 points a month ago

Go for it. The love of money may be the root of all evil, but not having enough of the stuff makes a lot of things seem a lot worse than they actually are. Pick packing is not fun, but could be a stepping stone to better things.

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StudChud 2 points a month ago

Exactly! I'm not even upset if I stay a while (if they even pick me), I'll just be happy to be in a better position than I am right now. We gotta be grateful for the small things :)

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SituationCake 3 points a month ago

Good luck! The main job of warehouses is to get the right stock, in the right quantity, into the right boxes/pallets, and ship it to the right address. So in the interview emphasise things like you have good attention to detail, and are accurate with work given to you, you will always ask rather than assume if you canโ€™t find what you need etc. Also mention that you can get along with all kinds of people. Warehouse demographics are a melting pot of cultures and walks of life.

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StudChud 2 points a month ago

Thank you for the advice! I have those transferable skills, I'll try to emphasise them :3 I really appreciate this!

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Seagoon_ 2 points a month ago

๐Ÿคž

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CadMunt 2 points a month ago

And uhh, if you need fake references I'm happy to make something up. I've worked in a few warehouses. on time, turns up, doesn't complain. When asked for a fault I usually say they eat meat which no interviewer wants to touch for a simple job reference.

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StudChud 2 points a month ago

Hahah loool you're awesome man, if I need a reference I'll let you know! Much appreciated ๐Ÿ’œ

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Bottom_racer 2 points a month ago

๐Ÿคž You got this :)

My last pick packer job co-worker gave me a giant bag of mushies he picked and all the things, everything really looked quite nice for a while there.

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StudChud 2 points a month ago

Oooo free mushies!? #winning

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lowtheseal 8 points a month ago
mental health, feeling sorry for myself

I've been denying that I've feeling crap for months. I have a lot to be thankful for, but there has just been this naggling feeling that something isn't right.

I haven't seen my psych since last year because it's expensive and all that's really happened is that they have told me to do this self-compassion workbook that I keep putting off.

Things are going well for the most part. I'm almost done with uni after what feels like an eternity, I have a supportive family and partner. But I also have a crippling anxiety problem, can barely take care of myself, not much social contact beyond my boardgames group and my friends on the other side of the world, no job lined up for next year, lots of doubt about my future and uncertainty about if I'm actually capable of doing this career.

All I can do is try. Resilience.

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SpinMeAround 4 points a month ago

You can feel like crap while still acknowledging what you have - both things can be true. Since you know what your psych would suggest, do you think the workbook would help?

Just keep trying, every day. Your self awareness is awesome, you are capable, you can do this.

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lowtheseal 1 point a month ago

I think it will. Thank you :)

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PeelerSheila 4 points a month ago

๐Ÿซ‚

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SituationCake 2 points a month ago

Itโ€™s ok. Life has ups and downs. Give yourself a high five for showing up even though you have difficulties. You are winning. If the career works out for long time or only a short time, itโ€™s fine. Itโ€™s a life experience. Most people change several careers in their lives. Hopefully the psych advice helps things. If you can find a good GP sometimes they can be helpful in anxiety treatments too.

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lowtheseal 1 point a month ago

Thank you :)

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tombruzzo 6 points a month ago

I thought you'd like to see the kind of animals I have to work with. Someone has never opened a box of teabags before

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CEOofmyhouse56 6 points a month ago

I love a good perf. It gives me a little joy in my life. So when it doesn't work out I get a little frustrated. I blame Twinings. Please see exhibit A & B below.

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Bottom_racer 4 points a month ago

I always feel rebellious when I open things from 'open other side'. I'm like bitch please I'm eating the whole thing in one sitting anyway so there's no cause for alarm.

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CEOofmyhouse56 4 points a month ago

People who open packets of chips upside down don't deserve those chips.

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SpinMeAround 3 points a month ago

Who does that?!

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Bottom_racer 3 points a month ago

It depends on the day of the week. Monday I'd agree. Fri. / Sat. I think there should be some leniency.

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tombruzzo 4 points a month ago

They're very guilty of using the thinnest cardboard and having it rip constantly. Keeping it consistent around the corners is almost impossible as well.

Whoever did this didn't even try, they just tore that thing straight open.

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CEOofmyhouse56 4 points a month ago

I like to think it was a man showing off his strength to the ladies.

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PeelerSheila 2 points a month ago

I feel your pain; in my house it's breakfast cereal boxes and it enrages me beyond all that is sensible that I have to look at that for the time it takes to consume that box!

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CEOofmyhouse56 2 points a month ago

Omg. Same at my joint. And the bag being left open instead of pegged. Wtf. I don't even eat it and it made me angry. I gave YL a cereal pourer thing to use now.

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SituationCake 3 points a month ago

You work with โ€œIโ€™m angry my mums not here to wait on me, Iโ€™m too important for menial manners, so Iโ€™ll just rip it open hahaha thatโ€™ll assert my dominance hereโ€ animals. I have encountered them in every workplace Iโ€™ve been in. Itโ€™s an endemic species.

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Catfish 6 points a month ago

๐Ÿฆ•๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฆ•๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฆ•๐Ÿฅฐ

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StudChud 6 points a month ago

Partner stayed up late playing a game, came to bed at like 4am. Which caused the cat to wake up and start screaming in my ear, so I've been up since like 4.30am.

I don't mind when he stays up late, or I get woken up by the cat. I'm more annoyed that once I'm awake, I can't sleep again until I'm exhausted (which is usually mid arvo when I'm up this early).

There is something kinda peaceful though, being awake at this hour and hearing the rest of the world wake up. The street cleaners and garbos are paid well, I hope.

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Taleya 3 points a month ago

bastard shoulda at least thrown kibble in the bowl before retiring. That's what I do in these situations - although admittedly His Lordship is unnerved when his alarm goes off and he's surrounded not by shrieking beansidhes but by fat bastards licking satiated lips

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SamuraiBeandog 3 points a month ago

I often randomly wake up at 3am and can tell when I'm not going to get back to sleep. After a couple of coffees I usually sit on the couch coding and its deeply enjoyable to just be cozy in the dark, cat curled up next to me, totally in my own world.

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StudChud 2 points a month ago

Lol I have a bunch of coffees too but then open my idle game and watch YT with my cat. Cats truly are wonderful creatures

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Catfish 2 points a month ago

I believe garbos are paid fairly well. Still not a job I'd like, but city living means somebody gotta. Just wish people would stop putting utterly wrong things in the recycling!

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CadMunt 4 points a month ago

$33/hr for my local garbos. Basic heavy rigid drivers pay. JWM waste management I think.

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StudChud 3 points a month ago

Maybe I should get my license and do this. I'm up early and don't mind stanky trash

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CadMunt 3 points a month ago

Pass a wee test?

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StudChud 3 points a month ago

We have that issue with my buildings dumpsters. The three dumpsters with red lids are for general waste, three dumpsters with yellow lids are for recycling, and one normal (like for a house), entirely dark green bin for e-waste.

Yet other residents still put recycling or e-waste into the red dumpsters, or general waste into the yellow dumpsters. There's just no helping those people ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

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bacon 5 points a month ago

Chef is not well today. Please help yourself
Beep Beep ๐Ÿšš
๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ๐ŸŠ๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿˆ๐Ÿซ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡๐Ÿ‰๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฅญ๐Ÿ๐Ÿฅฅ๐Ÿฅฆ๐Ÿฅ‘๐Ÿซ›๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ…๐Ÿฅ๐Ÿฅฌ๐Ÿฅ’๐ŸŒฝ๐Ÿฅ•๐Ÿฅ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿซš๐Ÿฅ”๐Ÿง…๐Ÿฅฏ๐Ÿž๐Ÿฅ–๐Ÿฅจ๐Ÿง€๐Ÿง‡๐Ÿฅž๐Ÿงˆ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฅš๐Ÿฅ“๐Ÿฅฉ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ–๐Ÿซ“๐Ÿ•๐ŸŸ๐Ÿ”๐ŸŒญ๐Ÿฅ™๐Ÿง†๐ŸŒฎ๐ŸŒฏ๐Ÿฅ—๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿœ๐Ÿ๐Ÿฅ˜๐Ÿ›๐Ÿฃ๐Ÿฑ๐ŸฅŸ๐Ÿฆช๐Ÿฅ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿš๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ ๐Ÿค๐Ÿชผ๐Ÿฆ€๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿฅฎ๐Ÿข๐Ÿก๐Ÿง๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿง๐Ÿฅง๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿจ๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿซ๐Ÿฅœ๐ŸŒฐ๐Ÿช๐Ÿฟ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฅ›โ˜•๏ธ๐Ÿต๐Ÿบ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿฅค๐Ÿง‹๐Ÿงƒ๐Ÿฅ‚๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅƒ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿน๐Ÿง‰๐Ÿ”‹

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Seagoon_ 5 points a month ago

Chef, would you like a hot drink and some toast?

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bacon 4 points a month ago

Yes please

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CadMunt 4 points a month ago

โ˜•๏ธ๐Ÿž edit: ๐Ÿงˆ๐Ÿง‡ Sorry for the dry toast.

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bacon 4 points a month ago

Thank you

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TheWitchofThornbury2 3 points a month ago

Chef, we all hope you are feeling better soon. ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Šโš•๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿˆ

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bacon 2 points a month ago

Thank you

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Catfish 3 points a month ago

๐Ÿ’Š๐Ÿซ–๐Ÿš‘๐Ÿˆโ€โฌ›

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bacon 3 points a month ago

Thank you

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Force_majeure1234 2 points a month ago

Feel better soon chef ๐Ÿ˜ท best I can do for myself is a cold tin of beans followed by a cold tin of sardines ๐Ÿซ˜ ๐ŸŸ

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bacon 2 points a month ago

Thank you

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SaneMartigan 5 points a month ago

I'm trying to woo cool DT users over here. Hey l3ntil.

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StudChud 4 points a month ago

There are dozens of us!

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Seagoon_ 3 points a month ago

from r****t? ..lol

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StudChud 3 points a month ago

Shhh we don't say that word 'round these parts ma'am

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CEOofmyhouse56 2 points a month ago

Someone made me hash cupcakes ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Gibsonhasafluffybutt 1 point a month ago

Will be at bar Ossau open mic at 7pm tomoz if anyone wants to grab a drink.

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