Fake ass countries
At least not the current Amerikkkan puppet state LMBO
19 days ago by jankforlife to c/memes
Derpenheim -5 points 19 days ago
What a spread of opinions in this one. You are hard to nail down on what you believe.
EmmiLime 10 points 18 days ago
They're all vassal states of the US empire. The US controls them and in south Korea's case their army is commanded by an Amerikan.
Their only goals are to project their empire's power and encircle Russia and China. Japan is also a vassal state the same way.
UninterestingVoid 2 points 19 days ago
oh true
Ephera -14 points 19 days ago
These nations comprise more than 100 million people. Even if the Epstein class personally impregnated 100 million children to deliver the population, the countries would still have basic legitimacy, because they contain these people.
If you're about to hit me with your definition of these countries just being the respective governments, not the people within, then you are using a definition outside the norm and should not be surprised that you piss people off, no matter what propaganda you want to believe in.
eldavi 12 points 18 days ago
it's about who controls them right now.
without the united states empire taiwan, south korea, and isreal would not exist as countries and ukraine wouldn't be controlled by fascists.
BanMeFromPosting 3 points 17 days ago
All countries have people in the lol. What are you even trying to argue here? There's plenty of peoples with unrecognised countries. There's plenty of countries with contested territory and people in the contested territory. There's plenty of countries with people who don't consider their country "legitimate" and countries with people who consider separatist movements in their country "illegitimate". Is your basis for legitimacy wether a country has people and a wikipedia page or what are you trying to get at here?
jankforlife 2 points 18 days ago
The only ones I piss off are lemmy libs such as yourself LMBO
BanMeFromPosting 2 points 18 days ago
What does lmbo stand for?
BanMeFromPosting 4 points 17 days ago
A claim that has yet to be proven, but I, like you, still believe we will someday see the first Funny Post
pitiable_sandwich540 -10 points 18 days ago
States have legitimacy?π€‘
Even China imho is a modern aristocracy, change my mind.
pitiable_sandwich540 -5 points 17 days ago
Uhm actshually i pulled it out of my assπ€
pitiable_sandwich540 -8 points 17 days ago
You've got a better word for a top-down system for appointing leadership?
pitiable_sandwich540 -5 points 16 days ago
It shows. Always happy to give you the impulse to start though <3
BanMeFromPosting 7 points 17 days ago
Holy shit you meant autocracy lmao. I wish I had half the ego you types do, to run my mouth about the governance of a specific country when I dont even know the difference between autocracy and aristrocracy. The hubris you have, goddamn. What a fucking idiot you are.
Anyway China is a democracy, one of very few in the modern world. People are elected on the basis of their merit, which is why you see most Chinese politicians arent lawyers from Ivy League schools, but people with real experience and more practically oriented educations. Because they're actually elected, instead of hand-picked by a small group of rich people that then support them.
And these people are able to govern 1.4 billion in the largest socialist country in the world, as opposed to whatever anarchist tendency you subscribe to which can boast of... Probably a decent soup kitchen or some funny internet drama.
BanMeFromPosting 6 points 17 days ago
My response is far more civil and respectful than the initial comment or any of their responses. Civility and respect is not just tone, but also action, and goddamn it is disrespectful to show up and spread shit everywhere like they did. Have the basic decency to not run your mouth on things you have fuck all understanding of. Me responding to you like this is in fact because they broke rule 1.
pitiable_sandwich540 -3 points 16 days ago
No aristocracy can coincide with nobility but the term itself just means a small privileged ruling class hold all the power. Yes in the middle ages this was inherited, but that's not a requirement.
How I which what you say is true, that they had soviets or some form of direct representation. But like the west they have a ruling class. It's just the CCP instead of bourgeois, though admittedly they strip away the pretensions of merrit by direct appointment. Workers at best have representations in the form of trade unions.
I'd cite some american university papers but you'd just call it propaganda. I which you could discard your rose tinted glasses and were able to criticise china. I mean their planned economy is way better than the west's economy based on greed driven decisions. Nontheless the decisions are ultimately made by a ruling class.
BanMeFromPosting 3 points 16 days ago
"Aristrocracy" as a system of governance is one where a noble elite pass on government positions through inheritance.
In practical application this never has such a clean-cut look, just like every other structure of governance. "Democracy" means rulership of the people and yet no modern "democracy" has all people show up and all vote on everything.
A "monarchy" is a rule of a singular dictator who inherited the position, yet in practice every monarchy was not just one guy deciding everything with absolute power and the ability to discount other powerful nobles. Yet we still describe them as monarchies.
That actual aristocracies don't fit neatly with the absolute description, does not mean that that is not what "aristrocracy" as a form of governance is.
Because yes, in practice, you had to become a noble somehow. And sometimes you didnt inherit stuff. Just like how in democracies functionaries aren't directly elected and laws are passed by representatives rather than all the people and some of those representatives might not even be elected, yet we still designated the system as a democracy.
An aristrocracy is not just "a small ruling class holding all the power". If that were the case then every parliamentary or representative democracy would be considered an aristrocracy. The inheritance of title and position is key, you absolute moron.
If you wanted something you could have made a very bad argument for oligarchy. But really you should just shut the fuck up on things you dont know and learn instead.
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